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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 15 Jul 2021 21:02)
Cool, you've acknowledged that, in principal, mathematics can be influenced by politics.

So now tell me. Do you think it's possible that how math is taught can be influenced by politics? I think the debate over "new math" and common core more than prove that it can be.

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Cool, you've acknowledged that, in principal, mathematics can be influenced by politics.

So now tell me. Do you think it's possible that how math is taught can be influenced by politics? I think the debate over "new math" and common core more than prove that it can be.


I already answered these questions in my various posts in this thread. I've made my case; we can continue this debate when you address any of my actual points instead of sidestepping them with simplistic questions which purposefully miss the mark.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ 15 Jul 2021 03:08)
The teaching of math will of course be subject to stronger ideological/cultural/political influence. In this regard, however, I am of the opinion that focusing on the stuff lined out by Canada's Ministry of Education will do abso-fucking-lutely nothing to address the inequalities in math learning. Worse than that, I believe that said focus on woke aspects will distract students of all skin colors from the important stuff (actual math) and diminish educational attainment of all students as a result. The proposed solution is entirely inadequate and even harmful; it is based on a horribly misguided and (in the case of math) outright wrong problem diagnosis.


Quote (Black XistenZ @ 16 Jul 2021 01:45)
The reasons behind inequalities in math learning are not addressed by the woke focus that Canada's Ministry of Education has outlined as per the OP. Given how badly Asian students wipe the floor with everyone else when it comes to math, including whites, it's really hard to argue that systemic racism or colonial history or an eurocentric [...] learning approach are the root cause of the inequality.


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Jul 15 2021 07:51pm
Whoever is entertaining the idea that mathematics is racist or debating the fact is getting hard trolled mostly by miserable chodes.

I see the thread has divulged into a teaching style not the subject itself. Like for example if we kill 2 n**** today and then 4 more tomorrow how many n**** have we killed in total. Whoever is having hard time grasping these concepts just pm me ill enlighten you. As far as the topic goes you are just beating a dead horse
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Jul 15 2021 07:53pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 15 2021 08:45pm)
I already answered these questions in my various posts in this thread. I've made my case; we can continue this debate when you address any of my actual points instead of sidestepping them with simplistic questions which purposefully miss the mark.


Cool, making sure we agreed, at least on principal, that it's possible for politics to enter these things.

Okay so do they have any examples of how they will change the cirriculum? Because saying they will decolonialize math doesn't mean their approach won't yield results. If you don't have an outline of what they will actually change you can't say with any certainty if it will achieve any particular goal.
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Cool, making sure we agreed, at least on principal, that it's possible for politics to enter these things.

Okay so do they have any examples of how they will change the cirriculum? Because saying they will decolonialize math doesn't mean their approach won't yield results. If you don't have an outline of what they will actually change you can't say with any certainty if it will achieve any particular goal.


Addressing an imaginary problem cannot yield results. There simply is nothing to "decolonialize" when it comes to math. And again: Asian overperformance over whites proves that an alleged "eurocentrism" or "systemic racism" in math classes is not a plausible explanation for the black and hispanic underperformance compared to whites (let alone asians).

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