Your answer is as obsessed with the state and as dismissive of the concerns of the masses as id expect from a communist

All further spam will be reported. This topic is in regards to upcoming riots, their likelihood or lack thereof.

Anyone looking to make silly and useless posts regarding other topics, make your own topic.

What world do you live in? Cops have been getting away with shit for DECADES. You're claiming that I'm seeing this from a narrow perspective but protests and riots occurred because of SEVERAL high profile incidents throughout the country. But boy, I must have REALLY struck a nerve with you. You're fantasizing about cops and citizens killing rioters (which would result in the deaths of hundreds). You'd rather have THAT than sacrifice 1 piece of white trash. I guess that makes sense since you subscribe to an ideology of sacrificing as many lives as necessary so that you get your way. That's literally what Stalin did (he didn't value human life much). I, on the other hand, am solving an optimization problem that results in the least amount of lives lost AND the least amount of damage. My way is the most peaceful way possible.

And police have been convicted of criminal activity for decades as well. It's a two way street. The only possible way to preserve any form of law and order is via police forces. George Floyd was a criminal, engaged in multiple criminal acts, who, based on all the testimony from cross examinations thus far, overdosed on fatal levels of fentanyl compounded by methamphetamines. If the Jury opts to convict on murder charges in spite of the clear doubt raised (note, the defense has not yet had a chance to call it's own witnesses), that's fine.

Further, you're seeing it from a super narrow perspective. Cases of unjustified police brutality in low crime rural areas, suburbs, and middle to wealthy class areas with low crime rates are almost non-existent. The absolute majority of "police brutality" claims come from urban and high crime rural areas, and almost universally by the police being called in because a crime was committed. The overwhelming majority of claims of "unjustified police brutality" prove out false. These aren't people who're saying, "I want to kill a poor person today." Overall, police are fine. There are some 700K police officers in the US. Calling "police" somehow bad or evil or "getting away" with shit is just plain dishonest.

And nobody is fantasizing about anything. The Bill of Rights applies to EVERYONE, white/black/red/yellow/brown man and woman. That includes police, politicians, firemen, walmart workers, billionaires, and everyone in between. The police exist to enforce that Bill of Rights, as well as the Constitution itself (not just the Amendments), and the statutes that help them to do so. When you have rioters in Portland who've been arrested 50+ times over the past year for burning, looting, and murdering, and none of them have had charges pressed, there's clearly something wrong. But not with the police, instead with the activist judges and DA's who are refusing to uphold the rights of the law abiding citizenry. Now, how many houses and businesses need firebombed, how many people need executed in the street, how many businesses need to be looted and burned, before you realize that rioters aren't victims. They're criminal terrorists victimizing the citizens of our nation? If the judges and prosecutors will not do their jobs, but will go after the enforcers who have continued attempting to do theirs, at what point does it devolve into, "If someone tries to violate my property, my family, or my neighbors in any way, it's time to kill them?" It's not a fantasy, it's a warning. Government exists to serve the people, not lead the people. When government fails to do it's job, and blames the police as a convenient scapegoat, you've lost the thread.

So to ask a few simple questions: If there's a complete acquittal, will the left violently riot? If there's a complete conviction on all charges, will the left riot? If there's a complete acquittal, will the right riot? If there's a complete conviction on all charges, will the right riot?

"Sacrificing" Chauvin will solve nothing. There was no opportunity given. At any point. The riots started immediately. Once again, the riots have not stopped in many areas. Portions of US land have been turned into armed encampments that have been proclaimed autonomous of US jurisdiction. The overwhelming majority believe riots will ramp up no matter what the verdict is, and again, they have not stopped. At any point. This is not a case of, "Let us lynch this ****** or else!" This is a case of, "We're going to burn it down until you do what we want. And when that works, we'll keep burning until we get more."

Your way is ineffective, stupid, and simply deprives the civil rights of a person that the Prosecution hasn't even made a viable case of being responsible for Floyd's death.

Police have murdered unarmed children on tape and gotten away with it.

Youre selectively ignoring facts to protect the reputation of the state.

Now there's an interesting tidbit that is at least somewhat tangentially related.

Tamir Rice was a tragedy, and a comedy of errors on all sides. We all followed the case, and I doubt there's anyone who doubts that what happened was terrible. And actual change happened as a result.

The story: Rice was in a park playing with a toy pistol. During his "play" he pointed the pistol at random passerby. Some of them got scared. Now, he was 12 years old but "man-sized". Several different people called 911 and reported him. While the callers did convey to dispatch that they thought the pistol might be fake and the man might be a juvenile, this was NOT conveyed to the officers dispatched to the scene. When the two officers arrived on the scene and told Rice to show his hands, he instead acted as though he was drawing the gun. Here's the actual toy they saw being drawn on them:



That's the literal toy pistol pulled from the case evidence file. One of the officers, naturally, thought it was real, and opened fire, shooting Rice twice. This was not some case of "cops out to kill people". It was a terrible misunderstanding, and a tragedy. Resulting from this was an immediate nationwide requirement that all toy guns have orange tips, and in many states and localities, they went so far as to prevent "toy guns" from having such an authentic look whatsoever, since there are now so many colored guns on the market.

Now, we can delve deeper and take a look at the pictures from the evidence file literally showing Rice pointing his toy at random strangers. We can talk about the complete failure of parents in looking after their boy and teaching him gun safety. We can even talk about whether police who thinking they're being drawn upon should take a bullet BEFORE they respond, as though they have no right not to get shot themselves, but I think most of these topics are pointless.

The point was, after Rice was shot, there were protests around the nation. None were riots (that I'm aware of), all were peaceful, and they led to probably one of the most positive changes when it came to "toy guns" that could possibly have happened to keep stupid and unattended children safe from police. What single positive thing has the George Floyd Riots led to? The four officers are on trial, same as the two in the Rice case. Perhaps they'll be convicted, perhaps not. Other than that, what change? A few hundred million in funding across the nation stripped from police departments, lowering their training standards, removing portions of the force, and leading to the first major surge in crime in the last 30 years? That's not a good thing. What benefit have riots accomplished?

I don't call a kid getting killed for playing with a toy a comedy of errors. I call it murder. And if you weren't so obsessed with defending the government you would to

If a random 5'7" 195lb man pointed the above pistol at you, would you respond by believing you were perfectly fine, or would you assume your life was in danger?

The officers were found not guilty of murder because they were not guilty of murder. Responsible parents teach their children not to point guns at random people, and most especially not to draw down on police.

The only person obsessed with defending anyone here is you, Thor. You've defended rioters, and claimed that the rights of law abiding citizens are meaningless, because a criminal died. Whether Chauvin (and the other three officers) are convicted or not is mostly meaningless. If they are, fine. If they aren't, fine. That's not the concern of this topic. Riots regarding the case are the concern of this topic. If you want to talk about murder, dozens have been murdered as a result of Floyd-related Riots and autonomous zones, and fewer than 10 of those murders even have suspects, let alone charges. Other rioters have personally participated in assaults on dozens of people, looted and burned dozens of businesses, burned down low income housing, and far far more. What do the riots accomplish? Tell me? How does burning down a neighborhood or a business that provides the food you eat solve the problem? Why should a target worker need beaten within an inch of their life for trying to scrape by because of the actions of a law enforcement officer responding to a call of criminal wrongdoing?

These are real questions. Perhaps you take at least 3 or 4 seconds to attempt to provide an honest answer to them. Because the only answer that appears to be apparent is, "Because somebody else did something to somebody else, we're going to target you, the law abiding citizen, and continue targeting you, until yet somebody else does yet something else." How exactly is that beneficial?

Funny how you frame a 12 year old getting executed within a second of the officer getting out of his car

You've really got a boner for the government. That 6 million dollar settlement really says innocent. Yep, definitely. Nothing can happen in a court to sway the outcome.

The government is perfect comrad. Your Soviet masters are very proud of you.

I framed exactly what happened. A 5'7" 195lb male drew what appeared to be a firearm when told to show his hands to police, police shot him. Had I taken the exact same action, I too would have been shot. The specifics are horrible, but not murder, hence the acquittal. If you were armed, and a 5'7" male drew on you, you'd have responded exactly as the officer did.

And once again, no riots in that case, yet a lot of change in the way toys are handled, to prevent it from occurring again. What're these riots accomplishing Thor? For all the billions in damage, dozens dead, thousands injured, businesses and homes destroyed, what positive change has occurred?

You've lost the thread again. This topic is about RIOTS and RIOTERS. Not your need to point fingers about how evil somebody else is because they're part of a "system".

So, since you've failed in any of your posts in this topic to answer the question or give the reasoning of the topic: Will there be new riots or not? And a follow up to you specifically: Do you support the rioters wandering around burning, looting, and murdering innocent Americans, many of whom will be minority and disadvantaged, over this case? Will that provide solace for Floyd's death?

Last: YOU work for the GOVERNMENT. The GOVERNMENT signs your paycheck. YOU are PART of the system. YOU, being part of the SYSTEM, makes you CULPABLE, based on your own claims. For a moment it almost seemed like you'd have useful input, seems it's back to nonsensical spam.