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Oct 15 2020 09:10am
Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 15 2020 10:09am)
Yes- an illegal project for his foreign policy agenda. Which he thought was a good idea for the country
Again, I'm drawing the distinction between "serving America's interests" and "serving one's own interests"

I think there's a very obvious difference between politicians who follow the rules, politicians who break the rules to advance a political agenda, and politicians who break the rules to get rich while tens of thousands of people die in the fighting


It's not one or the other though, moving Ukraine towards the United States is very much advancing a political agenda.
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Oct 15 2020 09:11am
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https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/

Today the NYPost came out with an expose of emails taken from a laptop computer that Hunter Biden apparently abandoned in a computer repair shop, which contained tens of thousands of emails back and forth with foreign officials and even a 12 minute long video of hunter biden smoking crack while engaged in a sex act- some of the former they released, the latter they did not.
Including among the drove of data were emails of a Burisma official thanking Hunter Biden for setting up a meeting with Joe Biden- contradicting Joe Biden's previous denials.
The emails also show Burisma officials bluntly trying to exploit Hunter Biden's political leverage for their gain "We urgently need your advice on how you could use your influence to convey a message / signal"
And responses from Hunter Biden seeking to find Ukrainian officials who could be pressured to drop the accusations against Burisma: "“Who is ultimately behind these attacks on the company? Who in the current interim government could put an end to such attacks?

The chain of custody and method it took to get to the public is definitely unusual- it was dropped off at the computer repair shop and had a Beau Biden Foundation sticker on it, but the owner didn't see Hunter himself drop it off, and after it was unclaimed for long enough the store claims they had the legal right to seize it, after which they reported it to the FBI, and say the FBI then took possession of the laptop, but only after the store owner made a backup of the hard drive, which he gave to Rudy Giuliani, who gave it to the NYPost.

However, the contents of the hard drive and emails seem far too incredibly detailed and verifiable to possibly be fake. There are tens of thousands of emails, dozens of pictures and video evidence, all matching contemporary records. They released a select few photos of Hunter Biden from the files, seen in their slideshow, that anyone can conclude prove this is authentic. Nobody has the means to fake this kind of trove of evidence. Not to mention, the owner of the store has the literal receipts- including a subpoena from the US District Court of Delaware seizing control of the laptop and external hard drive. Again I have to stress how impossible to fake some of this stuff would be- Biden family photos, photos of non-public figures, compromising personal photso, thousands of long and detailed and boring emails to and from numerous addresses and in the fractured english expected of ukrainians
Furthermore, the reaction from the Biden camp has been a non-denial, trying not to admit its real but refusing to say its fake

And that's where the media interference came in

Twitter and Facebook banned links to this story and even closed down the New York Post's account, suspended the account of the White House Press Secretary for sharing it, and have been engaged in the most massive media coverup and censorship of a breaking news story ever seen in the tech era. Of course, its all for naught given the Streisand Effect, but all the stops have been pulled out. Twitter has put in filters to both block links to the New York Post as well as image recognition to stop pictures of the emails or Hunter Biden's photos from being tweeted, and after a day of refusing to explain why, they now say that the story has been identified as "potentially harmful" and "goes against their policy on hacked/leaked materials" and "Personal information". Nevermind that it wasn't hacked, and that its being covered by major media outlet, and that they just a few weeks ago said it was okay to post hacked/leaked copies of Trump's financial statements. They then promoted stories from pro-Biden journalists at the AP trying to discredit and doubt the documents.

So what we've got is an October Surprise story confirming that Joe Biden lied about a scandal and was involved in a corrupt enterprise, an absolute mountain of evidence with receipts and verifiable documents to prove its legitimate, and big tech industries running the most bold coverup and interference play to protect a presidential candidate that's ever been done.

https://i.imgur.com/OuYuoku.jpg


LOL LOOKS LIKE A COOL GUY WOW ROFL
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Oct 15 2020 09:11am
another day, another story of nepotism, self-dealing, and fleecing the tax payer. will those bidens ever stop?!



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/secret-service-spending-trump-kids/2020/10/12/ffc1c330-ff31-11ea-9ceb-061d646d9c67_story.html
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Oct 15 2020 09:11am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 15 2020 08:52am)
Not selective outrage lol

I've never been outraged about Trump doing coke. Honestly it should probably be legal.
Even if we assume the issue is 100% true, Trump bringing his family into the white house the way he has still outshines this in terms of nepotism by a country mile.
Trump takes millions of dollars in foreign money every year in the most clear violation of the emoluments clause in our nation's history, so even if we assume it's all true Trump is still worse.



Basically, even if we assume all of this is 100% real, then Trump is still worse than Biden. Even at his worst, and this may well be his worst, Biden is still better than Trump in every way.


So in your echo chamber world Trump “bringing his family into the WH” is worse than a foreign company paying the son of the VP $50,000 a month to sit on their board for direct access to his father ? Seems a little TDS
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Oct 15 2020 09:11am
Quote (MSX98 @ Oct 15 2020 02:23am)
Ukraine has the best crack B)


nope. Toronto does
but i wouldn't know
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Oct 15 2020 09:13am
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So in your echo chamber world Trump “bringing his family into the WH” is worse than a foreign company paying the son of the VP $50,000 a month to sit on their board for direct access to his father ? Seems a little TDS


If they want to pay Hunter Biden 50k a month to get political connections I really couldn't care less. That's the kind of thing that literally every single company does around the entire world.

The question is if this resulted in Biden doing something for the gain of his family that doesn't also benefit the United States.
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Oct 15 2020 09:17am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 15 2020 10:10am)
It's not one or the other though, moving Ukraine towards the United States is very much advancing a political agenda.


How can that be divorced from personal profiteering of the guy leading the charge?
Since this scandal broke, Biden has been insisting that he's never ever influenced by his son's business, and his son's business is totally legit, and he never knew about any of it and never even met anyone involved
And then we get photos of Joe Biden standing next to Burisma reps on a golf trip, emails confirming he met them and the gory details of the blatant corruption and looting of wealth
Its a hard fiction to maintain when a coke-addled dropout with no employable skills is making $5 million at a no-show job from a country he's never been to with a language he doesn't speak
I'd say its the most obvious and blatant corruption imaginable, but I can also imagine Hunter Biden literally being handed an $80,000 diamond in a hotel room by a chinese businessman trying to pass US regulators



This post was edited by Goomshill on Oct 15 2020 09:19am
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Oct 15 2020 09:37am
Here's something that really did happen
https://www.newsweek.com/lindsey-graham-accused-illegally-soliciting-donations-federal-building-1539300?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

I ask the Republicans on here to do the right thing and state this is wrong. It would be wrong if a Democrat did it. It would be wrong if an Independent did it. It's wrong that a Republican is doing it.

Show some integrity and prove to me that you're not all crazy.
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Oct 15 2020 09:37am
good thread
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Oct 15 2020 10:26am
$50,000/month peanuts tbh on this level

we all just ants trying to kill each other a grain of sugar

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