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Quote (HomeRun916 @ Sep 24 2020 08:00am)
I like you. Why can’t more people be reasonable, critical thinking humans?


If the Venn Diagram of "People who agree with me" and "People who are reasonable, critical thinking humans" is a perfect overlap, then you've got a big storm coming.

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If the Venn Diagram of "People who agree with me" and "People who are reasonable, critical thinking humans" is a perfect overlap, then you've got a big storm coming.


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Quote (Handcuffs @ Sep 24 2020 12:04pm)
If the Venn Diagram of "People who agree with me" and "People who are reasonable, critical thinking humans" is a perfect overlap, then you've got a big storm coming.


my venn diagram is tangential circles
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There's been a lot of conflicting information about this story, but I would like to ask one question to see if this is one issue that there is no dispute over:

Who shot first?
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Quote (Kayeto @ Sep 24 2020 02:14pm)
There's been a lot of conflicting information about this story, but I would like to ask one question to see if this is one issue that there is no dispute over:

Who shot first?


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There's been a lot of conflicting information about this story, but I would like to ask one question to see if this is one issue that there is no dispute over:

Who shot first?


From the reports I've read, Walker fired a warning shot after getting no response asking "Who's there?". That shot hit officer Mattingly.
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From the reports I've read, Walker fired a warning shot after getting no response asking "Who's there?". That shot hit officer Mattingly.


If that's not in dispute AND we know that the cops had a no-knock warrant (indisputable) then what exactly is the controversy over? Whether the cops did something wrong by firing back some bullets that hit Taylor? Because she wasn't doing anything by standing in her apartment?

If those bullets had happened to miss her, then what, if anything could the dispute be over?
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Quote (Kayeto @ Sep 24 2020 01:14pm)
There's been a lot of conflicting information about this story, but I would like to ask one question to see if this is one issue that there is no dispute over:

Who shot first?


gosh wouldnt it be nice to have body cam footage, gee that would be swell.
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If that's not in dispute AND we know that the cops had a no-knock warrant (indisputable) then what exactly is the controversy over? Whether the cops did something wrong by firing back some bullets that hit Taylor? Because she wasn't doing anything by standing in her apartment?

If those bullets had happened to miss her, then what, if anything could the dispute be over?


Allegations that the LMPD lied on the affidavits filed to obtain said warrant, and lied about the Postal Service "corroborating" said info. Discrepancies on whether the police actually verbally announced they were police before breaching the apartment (Walker (and 11 neighbors) claim they heard no such announcement, one neighbor says they did (and the police obviously claim they did). A residence supposedly being a "soft target", according to police, requiring a no-knock warrant, yet the police knock (and potentially don't announce - this puts the officers involved in the raid at higher risk, as evidenced by the injury to Mattingly during the breach). The fact that Walker had attempted murder charges dropped against him after interrogation by police (as he was acting with a legally-owned firearm within the constraints of Kentucky's stand your ground law).
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