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Jul 17 2020 01:26pm
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I don't think this will ever happen, and disagree with Thor's take that there's the potential that outcome data would ever justify considering it.

If there were a SJW path forward, it would far more likely be the case that advocates would strive to lower medical age-of-consent laws for hormone therapy as opposed to attempting to penalize the 'denial' of puberty blockers. The foster care system is already struggling as-is, and removing a child from the home is (I think) more difficult than some might assume.*

*Yes, there are rare cases of overzealous, inappropriate actions by CPS/the state.


It's already happening in bc with a hospital fighting to transition a teen against the fathers wishes
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-court-of-appeal-transgender-teen-1.5269512
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Jul 17 2020 01:35pm
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It's already happening in bc with a hospital fighting to transition a teen against the fathers wishes
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-court-of-appeal-transgender-teen-1.5269512


Indeed. There have been quite a few cases of this, especially when a child has separated parents who both yield medical rights but who disagree.
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Jul 17 2020 01:47pm
Cerebraly under-developped people are unable to understand that hormones unbalance is a super hot subject. Very interesting.
I'm certainly not in favor of neo-gays or whatever movement, but it's clear than in many case high testosterone IS a problem.

https://www.bestmusclesupps.com/gorilla-testosterone-review/

nb: watch its influence on gorillas.

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Jul 17 2020 01:54pm
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Cerebraly under-developped people are unable to understand that hormones unbalance is a super hot subject. Very interesting.
I'm certainly not in favor of neo-gays or whatever movement, but it's clear than in many case high testosterone IS a problem.

https://www.bestmusclesupps.com/gorilla-testosterone-review/

nb: watch its influence on gorillas.


High testosterone might be a problem temporarily for some boys. They watch porn and jerk off, play knuckle boxing and do other dumb shit and eventually grow out of it.

I got into trouble with the law in my late teens repeatedly. But thinking about it now, if someone suggested i take testosterone blockers or estrogen to 'tame' my behavior it would have done more damage. For eons we were fine with the natural progression of our biology, it's wrong to all of the sudden to try to redefine and push kids with life altering biological interference.

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Jul 17 2020 01:56pm
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I don't think this will ever happen, and disagree with Thor's take that there's the potential that outcome data would ever justify considering it.

If there were a SJW path forward, it would far more likely be the case that advocates would strive to lower medical age-of-consent laws for hormone therapy as opposed to attempting to penalize the 'denial' of puberty blockers. The foster care system is already struggling as-is, and removing a child from the home is (I think) more difficult than some might assume.*

*Yes, there are rare cases of overzealous, inappropriate actions by CPS/the state.


it's nearly impossible without a clear documented history of physical abuse.

source: my wife calling CPS dozens of times with no action to date.

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I think the outcome data would have to be super stark to justify removing a kid from their home for them to get hormone therapy, so I think it's very unlikely to be justified. I just really don't like "THIS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN" mindsets.


my overall opinion is that it wouldnt be justified in the opinion of most people, but that due to p.c. reasons people dont stands up to it and it happens in a very liberal area due to some kind of human right's panel being created on a state level similar to Canada's.

like Portland based Human Right's commission deems lack of puberty blockers for 12 year old who has 20k Instagram followers neglect and abuse and child is removed from home.

i'd have not believed this pre-covid with things like CHOP and government ceding control to fanatics. i think we're going to see a big continuation of that in some areas.
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Jul 17 2020 01:59pm
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High testosterone might be a problem temporarily for some boys. They watch porn and jerk off, play knuckle boxing and do other dumb shit and eventually grow out of it.

I got into trouble with the law in my late teens repeatedly. But thinking about it now, if someone suggested i take testosterone blockers or estrogen to 'tame' my behavior it would have done more damage. For eons we were fine with the natural progression of our biology, it's wrong to all of the sudden to try to redefine and push kids with life altering biological interference.


But you didn't end up in jail for raping multiple women and assaulting over a dozen 6 year olds.
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Jul 17 2020 02:00pm
In reality, this is how all males should be treated in civilization. Take a sperm sample at 13, castrate, and then put them on estrogen. Intact males should be seen as illegal and treated the same way we treat other illegals. 98% of the world’s problems solved instantly.
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Jul 17 2020 02:02pm
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In reality, this is how all males should be treated in civilization. Take a sperm sample at 13, castrate, and then put them on estrogen. Intact males should be seen as illegal and treated the same way we treat other illegals. 98% of the world’s problems solved instantly.


cuck bois stop eating meat, convert to soy, and global warming is rip'd into pieces.
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Jul 17 2020 02:05pm
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High testosterone might be a problem temporarily for most boys.They watch porn and jerk off, play knuckle boxing and do other dumb shit and eventually grow out of it.

I got into trouble with the law in my late teens repeatedly. But thinking about it now, if someone suggested i take testosterone blockers or estrogen to 'tame' my behavior it would have done more damage. For eons we were fine with the natural progression of our biology, it's wrong to all of the sudden to try to redefine and push kids with life altering biological interference.


In bold; this is over-simplication. You can't compare things like that: Someone who has an high and super high testosterone levels is a different problem AND effect itself is also depending of each patient.
At this stage you are about to align with anti vaccine people: sometimes vaccines have a side effect or are not properly tolerated by a small% of patients ? => No hormonal treatment, they just want to feminize us !

Only experts could say if it was right or wrong for OP case, thus im not following THIS story, i guess no one really knows yet. Or ... Maybe it's already debunked.

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Jul 17 2020 02:34pm
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High testosterone might be a problem temporarily for some boys. They watch porn and jerk off, play knuckle boxing and do other dumb shit and eventually grow out of it.

I got into trouble with the law in my late teens repeatedly. But thinking about it now, if someone suggested i take testosterone blockers or estrogen to 'tame' my behavior it would have done more damage. For eons we were fine with the natural progression of our biology, it's wrong to all of the sudden to try to redefine and push kids with life altering biological interference.

they start even earlier with the “adhd” medicine and the like. shoving chemicals into kids 8-9 years old because they are energetic and then wonder why they’re apathetic and what not even before the teenage angst kicks in
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