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Jul 20 2020 05:24pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 20 2020 04:41pm)
Many items from my list are the official party platform.


  • diversity quotas in college admissions have been embraced by the mainstream of the Democratic party for many years; and it really isnt hard to see how calls for expanding them to boards and panels and the judiciary and public sector jobs will become the norm among the left in the next couple of years.
  • toxic masculinity and related concepts of modern feminism aren't exactly a fringe position to hold among Democrats either.
  • abandoning the idea of the American melting pot in favor of multiculturalism has been the more or less official party line for over a decade, even if it isnt spelled out explicitly, word for word.
  • large-scale amnesty plus a pathway to citizenship for almost every illegal immigrant is the official party line since at least 2017. These things are explicitly demanded in the official platform proposal put forth by the Biden-Bernie unity committee a couple of days ago.
  • safe spaces are a well-established and accepted instrument among the left.
  • cancel culture might not be the official party doctrine yet, but it made huge strides in recent years, both in terms of its scope and its acceptance within the party.
  • striving for equality of outcomes, irrespective from the potential inequaltiy of the inputs, is also a stance that is well-established and not overly controversial among Democrats. Particularly in recent years, the line of reasoning usually goes "unequal outcomes are indicative of discrimination or persisting and unjustified privileges, and should therefore never be tolerated".


So the only point from my list that might not make the cut is the one about the nanny state, which was too general and wobbly to be definitively confirmed or falsified.


Toxic masculinity is gross though.

Right demands safe spaces. Rights of assembly and speech used to exist. You guys were complaining about not having enough safe spaces when Milo was run off of college campuses across america.

What is the opposite of cancel culture? Forced consumption. Boycotts are too successful? You are already hopelessly biased you've proven you can't judge it considering its successes such as #metoo and the cancelling of Cosby and Weinstein. You compartmentalize it, take all the achievements out, and then call it a failure. Cancel culture brought Martin Luther King day to Arizona and that counts.

We have a multicultural melting pot. We do diversity way better than europe. I lived in germany for two years and i remember where the turks lived, and where the russians lived.

If you live on america and you're working hard you should be able to be a citizen. Better than third generation welfare OGs from the ghetto and trailer parks.

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Toxic masculinity is gross though.

Right demands safe spaces. Rights of assembly and speech used to exist. You guys were complaining about not having enough safe spaces when Milo was run off of college campuses across america.

What is the opposite of cancel culture? Forced consumption. Boycotts are too successful? You are already hopelessly biased you've proven you can't judge it considering its successes such as #metoo and the cancelling of Cosby and Weinstein. You compartmentalize it, take all the achievements out, and then call it a failure. Cancel culture brought Martin Luther King day to Arizona and that counts.

We have a multicultural melting pot. We do diversity way better than europe. I lived in germany for two years and i remember where the turks lived, and where the russians lived.

If you live on america and you're working hard you should be able to be a citizen. Better than third generation welfare OGs from the ghetto and trailer parks.


Modern America isn't a melting pot! In the good old days we didn't have separate neighborhoods for each group and people didn't self-segregate!

wait... they did.... and they often did it because it was literally illegal for them to do otherwise? Because white people wanted to self-segregate? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY ARE YOU CALLING ME OUT FOR BEING DISHONEST!!!!!! LIBERALS DESTROYED THE VALUE OF INTEGRATION!

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Modern America isn't a melting pot! In the good old days we didn't have separate neighborhoods for each group and people didn't self-segregate!

wait... they did.... and they often did it because it was literally illegal for them to do otherwise? Because white people wanted to self-segregate? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY ARE YOU CALLING ME OUT FOR BEING DISHONEST!!!!!! LIBERALS DESTROYED THE VALUE OF INTEGRATION!


Problem?

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Toxic masculinity is gross though.


Stop giving out blowjobs.

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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 20 2020 03:57pm)
I'm gonna pick one from the list

What do you think a "safe space" means and what do you think are the problems with it? And if I tell you that you are mistaken would you be willing to accept it?


CHOP in seattle is a problematic side effect of safe spaces.

you can pick another item from the list now.
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Quote (thesnipa @ 21 Jul 2020 07:58)
CHOP in seattle is a problematic side effect of safe spaces.

you can pick another item from the list now.



that wasn’t a real safe space. real safe spaces have never been actually tried

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Funny point is that american "left" = moderated right.
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Quote (excellence @ Jul 21 2020 07:07am)
that wasn’t a real safe space. real safe spaces have never been actually tried

:D


its funny how the goalposts shifted from "what fringe policies are part of the left's platform" to "ok so why is that a problem and do u even understand what it means"

every topic flavored with the same "are u even smart enough to get what that means" condescension lol. but u say coward and you're so "triggered" he has to talk a walk away from the conversation lmao.
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its funny how the goalposts shifted from "what fringe policies are part of the left's platform" to "ok so why is that a problem and do u even understand what it means"

every topic flavored with the same "are u even smart enough to get what that means" condescension lol. but u say coward and you're so "triggered" he has to talk a walk away from the conversation lmao.

yeah it’s sophomore-year level arguing. makes sense given the users always employing these tactics (thor, heinrich etc.)
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its funny how the goalposts shifted from "what fringe policies are part of the left's platform" to "ok so why is that a problem and do u even understand what it means"

every topic flavored with the same "are u even smart enough to get what that means" condescension lol. but u say coward and you're so "triggered" he has to talk a walk away from the conversation lmao.


I see you've still got sand in your vagina Cambo. You're even circle-jerking with disembodied head lol.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jul 21 2020 10:51am
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 21 2020 11:47am)
I see you've still got sand in your vagina Cambo.


i'll tell you the same thing i tell me wife, dont tell me im mad when im smiling and laughing.

watching you dodge your own parties aims is enough to keep me in that state perpetually, especially when you're a snarky bitch to black all the way about how he doesnt understand the concepts he's referencing.

you're just using the stereotypical easy pard dodges like you've only been here a week. "you're mad" is so 2014. this started because you're lazy lol, dont ask for a list and then ignore it while being condescending.

i am but pards mirror, keep being a snarky bitch and you'll be reading me as "mad" for a long time.

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You're even circle-jerking with disembodied head lol.


excellence and leevie agreeing with me in the same thread and calling you out, that's like fender and ghot agreeing almost. maybe u missed that when u were dodging posts because i was "mad" lol

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