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Jun 19 2020 10:47am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 19 2020 11:38am)
Black is a color that when painted over any other color will make it disappear.


SPLC gonna declare this a hate symbol



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Jun 19 2020 10:58am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 19 2020 11:38am)
You should really tell that to Orrin Hatch John McCain and Marco Rubio then

Oh and the August 11th rally was specifically organized by neo Nazis with neo Nazi speakers. It was literally a neo Nazi torch rally. And in his August 12th address he specifically says "the night before" when he defends them.


you're missing my point entirely. Mccain and Ruboto criticized him for something entirely different than the "good people on both sides quote", even though years removed we all attribute that 2nd round quote to the 1st round, which Rubio was criticizing him for (round 1). It's a Mandella effect instance.

yes the Aug 11th rally was organized by neo nazis, but they didnt have a bouncer that checked everyone had a Mein Kampf book to let them in. when nazis organize a rally typically as many or more counter protesters show up. same with the KKK, westboro baptists, etc. they're a flame for moths to flock to.

like i said in my first post, nazi existence excuses any violence that follows to people with no nuance. its silly. did i like seeing that black guy cold clock a nazi? yes. but do i go as far as to suggest his very existence excuses violence against him with a blank check? no, of course not.
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and we cant forget this is all a string coming from "do you think trump would put secret nazi symbols in his ads". you offered Charlottesville as potential evidence, and in that context it seems like very weak sauce. i think we should all be able to agree that even tho trump is an idiot and dogwhistles to latent dixiecrat type southern ideals, that there's a LONGCRY different between that and signaling actual nazis. as if they wont vote for him anyways.

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Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 19 2020 11:58am)
as if they wont vote for him anyways.


tbf most of the hardcore alt right / neonazis / white nationalists think trump is a jewlover and are more likely to assassinate him at this point than an antifa / blm radical
/e funnily enough some of the antifa / blm folks also hate trump as a jewlover

seems like I should just invoke the jpg;



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Jun 19 2020 11:10am
>Let me place nazi dog-whistles to show i'm one of them for a population i already have in the bag voting wise, meanwhile alienating 95% of the us in the process months before election.

Makes sense
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Jun 19 2020 11:11am
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 19 2020 12:06pm)
tbf most of the hardcore alt right / neonazis / white nationalists think trump is a jewlover and are more likely to assassinate him at this point than an antifa / blm radical


i dont believe that. i think it's the same type of behavior Ann Coulter is using, where they first hyped him up because they thought that was the type of behavior that mad him do what you want, flattery. then realized he's actually more receptive to criticism, and are trying that tact to get more of the platform that was promised done.

the only nazi type i could see actually hating trump is a deeply delusioned one (and not in the normal way) who has a skewed enough world view to think their ideology will actually gain mainstream traction. and nazi with half a brain, like 50 iq or over, should realize small concessions are the best they can hope for. tying up some loop holes, funding a wall, call out antifa/blacks, etc.
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Jun 19 2020 11:48am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 19 2020 12:11pm)
i dont believe that. i think it's the same type of behavior Ann Coulter is using, where they first hyped him up because they thought that was the type of behavior that mad him do what you want, flattery. then realized he's actually more receptive to criticism, and are trying that tact to get more of the platform that was promised done.

the only nazi type i could see actually hating trump is a deeply delusioned one (and not in the normal way) who has a skewed enough world view to think their ideology will actually gain mainstream traction. and nazi with half a brain, like 50 iq or over, should realize small concessions are the best they can hope for. tying up some loop holes, funding a wall, call out antifa/blacks, etc.


I think you have to specify what type of ideology we're talking about. Because actual avowed white supremacists / neo-nazis / altright shitbirds very much hate Trump and think he's a race traitor, and the wackos who have gone out and down some mass shootings left behind manifestos hating on him. Its not like the guys who shoot up a place of worship in the name of accelerationism have any reason to mask or temper their beliefs, and they're pretty adamant in hating Trump.
Half of Trump's family is Jewish, he gives his unquestioning support to Israel and the Jewish community and has been probably the most actively pro-jewish president in US history. There might be some alt-light white nationalists who have no antipathy towards jews and view what they call race realities, and they might not mind. But not the full blown neo-nazis. Just wading into their posts and reading their ideological rantings is enough to see they hate him as much as the BLM marchers
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Jun 19 2020 12:21pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jun 18 2020 08:32pm)
It's extraordinarily unlikely that the Trump campaign is trying to cater to Nazis, an incredibly marginal section of the population voting in states he's absolutely sure to win, by sending secret messages (triangles!) that hardly anyone, including the "target" audience, is likely to get.

The issue at play is that the content of the ad offended the ADL, who in turn riffed through it for some obscure "Nazi" reference they could jump on in order to convince Facebook to censor the ad. Facebook was all too willing to play along, setting the stage for "gotcha" news articles reading some version of "Facebook removes Trump campaign ad featuring NAZI symbol".

But of course it's a dog-whistle, not because we can prove it, but because we can't! Plausible deniability is actually proof that it's as nefarious as it seems!


I agree. I attribute this to incompetence or apathy. There probably isn't anyone in the campaign who deals with these issues in a serious way.
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Jun 19 2020 12:26pm


the above must be banned now because “national-socialism”
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 19 2020 10:43am)
The video already had a 'manipulated media tag' before Twitter did it, it was watermarked by CarpeDonktum
Are you looking forward to a society where satire is banned?


The quote "hard cases make bad law" comes to mind. Twitter and Facebook are faced with a problem they never had before, the most powerful man in the world using their platforms to share inflammatory material, manipulated media, and downright misinformation. When it was just lunatics in the media sharing this stuff, Twitter could let it slide, but now they're forced to take it seriously.

Maybe American shouldn't have elected a trollish toddler as president?
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Jun 19 2020 12:51pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 19 2020 09:59am)
Do you honestly believe that the Trump campaign was actively trying to secretly signal to and cater to Nazis?


The more likely explanation is that Trump doesn't attract serious people, so his campaign is made up of infowars-esque morons who created this ridiculous ad.

It's funny how everybody just skips past the ridiculousness that this ad was shared by a president's campaign account, as well as the P and VP accounts. Even critics of Trump have adopted this method of completely ignoring the glaring issues.

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