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May 22 2020 05:30am
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 22 2020 04:16am)
I have aboriginal blood, but yeah my statement stands here too.
In fact we ruined this country.


So you hate yourself. Don't project your bullshit on everyone else.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ 22 May 2020 13:30)
So you hate yourself. Don't project your bullshit on everyone else.


Almost 100% of what you are posting is bullshit.
More like you are hating, and you are projecting...
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 22 2020 09:30pm)
So you hate yourself. Don't project your bullshit on everyone else.


No, I hate the British and our government.
Fact is if you were a native you would have a completely different perspective on "invasion".
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May 22 2020 07:29am
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 22 2020 05:08am)
No, I hate the British and our government.
Fact is if you were a native you would have a completely different perspective on "invasion".


He's a cringy white privilege guy.. he can't fathom what you are talking about.
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Quote (Plaguefear @ May 22 2020 02:08pm)
No, I hate the British and our government.
Fact is if you were a native you would have a completely different perspective on "invasion".


I get what you're saying but this aint the 1800s anymore. Natives can participate in society just like everybody else and do well if they put in the grind just like everybody else.

What I don't get is that those natives still care more for firewater and tobacco and still ruin their lives the same way they did in the past. I mean lots of em at least.
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Quote (Djunior @ May 22 2020 09:35am)
I get what you're saying but this aint the 1800s anymore. Natives can participate in society just like everybody else and do well if they put in the grind just like everybody else.

What I don't get is that those natives still care more for firewater and tobacco and still ruin their lives the same way they did in the past. I mean lots of em at least.


Things that work for white people don't work for all people or work to a much lesser degree.

Getting the interview getting the job getting the raise all these things matter.
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Quote (Skinned @ May 22 2020 03:52pm)
Things that work for white people don't work for all people or work to a much lesser degree.

Getting the interview getting the job getting the raise all these things matter.


Picking fruits in an orchard doesn't require much of an interview, the orchards always need workers and if you work hard during the season you can safe up pretty good money.

They'll even give you workers accommodation at very reasonable prices. Been there done that mate.
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Quote (Goomshill @ May 22 2020 04:46am)
philosophically, whats the difference between
"A private prison operating under state regulations and auditing"
and
"A public prison built, maintained, and cleaned by private contractors, operated by the department of corrections, with food services, utilities and entertainment by private contractors"

The classical argument against privatization was the corrupt profit motive to lock people up in private prisons. But doesn't that still exist with private contractors in the public sector? I can think of some bridges and roads-to-nowhere around here that didn't need our tax dollars wasted on them. Are the politicians the safeguard standing inbetween? If private prisons industry lobbying was the corrupting force, wouldn't that still exist as long as they are contracting for public prisons anyway?


Outcomes. Private persons serve up worse outcomes than public ones which already have bad outcomes. Incentive for more prisoners alone is bad, and in both systems but its worse in private prisons. Everything that's bad in public, and there's a long list, is worse in the private sector.
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Quote (thesnipa @ May 22 2020 11:35am)
Outcomes. Private persons serve up worse outcomes than public ones which already have bad outcomes. Incentive for more prisoners alone is bad, and in both systems but its worse in private prisons. Everything that's bad in public, and there's a long list, is worse in the private sector.


isn't that just cause to regulate private prisons more strictly, proportionate to the disparity?
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Quote (Goomshill @ May 22 2020 11:37am)
isn't that just cause to regulate private prisons more strictly, proportionate to the disparity?


That's a moral quandary. Do I support regulating private business or banning it? I tend to lean to banning as regulation will be hard and also against my general code. Why not instead use an already regulated system when we have empty prisons and blocks? Not an easy choice but I lean that way.
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