Opinion masquerading as fact.

the only inherent purpose of a federal govt is national defense. beyond that its just a balance of federal, state, and local responsibilities. its just over time all rivers lead to the ocean, the federal govt goes from not controlling a thing, to monitoring a thing, to giving guidance on a thing, to mandating that guidance be followed, to then replacing state or local agents with federal ones.

common core education is a good example of how this process can go wildly wrong.

I just want to see the Libertarians who believe taxation is theft to stop being cucks and do something about it.

Someone breaks into your home to steal? You'd do something about it.
Someone mugs you in the street? You'd do something about it.
Government steals some of your green paper? Complain on the Internet.

Man up.

I am not saying what we have today is the best. We need change 100%. I just cant comprehend people that say taxes are theft when those dollars go to so many things they would be fucked without. Granted taxes are also wasted on bullshit so lets fix that.

I could have also gone down the route that the government prints the paper explicitly so it can be paid back to them in the form of taxes, so by using their money you are basically agreeing and nobody is stopping you from bartering.

There's a lot.... lot.... and I mean a LOOOOOT of reasons why defining theft broadly enough to include taxation (as it exists in the United States at least) renders the definition useless.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on May 1 2020 12:26pm

The Bundys did something about it, seized a govt building with guns and dug in.

me personally, every time i drive past a cop i mutter "pussy" under my breath, that'll teach em.



robin hood was still a thief. what it goes to doesnt change it being theft. it either is acceptable theft or unacceptable theft.

But the non-taxed Libertarians are actually engaging in theft from me, a taxpayer. My money went towards the contribution of services that they benefit from while not contributing.

Checkmate Libertarians, the real thieves.

who are non taxed libertarians? hobos? i guess good karma on you for keeping streets nice for them to sleep on.

I'm just such a nice person.

I'm not in the loop on discussions surrounding libertarianism, statism and such, so the following might be a stupid question, but I'm curious for an answer:

How would hardcore libertarians handle the situation from 1860, the issue of slavery in other parts of the country?

Sure, slavery is a gross violation of the NAP, but how would they stop it without forming a strong, coordinated police force or even an army? How would they fund this army without taxation, how would they keep these forces' monopoly on the legitimate use of violence in check without federal rules and oversight, i.e. federal coordination (which also has to be funded somehow)?
Or would hardcore libertarians just ignore the issue, along the lines of "what these southerners are doing is horrible, but not our business"?

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on May 1 2020 07:00pm