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But again, I see that you believe that there's no benefit to any one of that...
So because some of the money that goes to things that you don't agree with, the money that is used to maintain world order and keep the country safe from invading countries is somehow "theft."
Mass murder is not merely something i 'dont agree with'.
Those are instances of taxes funding evil as you asked.
Thats not why its theft.
Its theft because its the undue taking of people's property, through force and threats of violence and imprisonment.
This was more thoroughly covered in the short article i posted and in others comments in this thread.
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Tip: If you didn't start with, what is unarguably a complete lie, and is completely false from a purely objective stand point, you might have a chance at convincing somebody.
It won't work on me since I'm already aware that the concept that you are parroting came from a libertarian think tank that gets paid to promote ideas that help make their donors more money and who's policies would do people like you absolutely no good what so ever.
What is the 'inarguable lie' you are falsely accusing me of posting?
Its clear you are an extreme bootlicker and there is no chance of a convincing you to be otherwise in the short term with a few posts.
The best I can do is counter your simplistic narratives and cliches for spectating third parties.
Falsely impugning the motives of libertarians and libertarian think tanks does nothing to refute the actual arguments.
Liberty is not just good for rich donors.
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You don't make enough money to truly benefit from a tax free environment, since your financial status in society would not change (you would still be working class), but it does dramatically alter the power of the rich who have the financial mobility to be involved in international markets.
The more the US reduces taxes, the more benefits you lose, and the more business opportunities go to people who have the money to invest into them.
You are oblivious to the benefits of lower taxes for the masses. A more thriving economy w/ more money in their paycheck and more affordable and plentiful goods and services is a boon for the average person.
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Laws are exactly what stops me from doing that, people sign contracts for unpaid internships all the time, I am not legally allowed to do that in my specific situation.
And why do people take on unpaid internships? because it benefits them and they want to do it. Likely in pursuit of experience to help them gain a good job in the future.
Why should unpaid internships not be allowed?
If you want to offer people unpaid internships I have no problem with that.
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most instances of businesses unpaid internships are not viable or in demand from a worker perspective. They require pay.
"laws" are not what is driving this phenomenon.
Why do you imagine your fantasy about running a 100% profit business is some brilliant and important counter to someone saying they would prefer liberty and to 'peacefully and voluntarily live amongst others' and recognizing that people can voluntarily offer goods and services to others?Quote
First of all, I'm talking about a business, not people.
It's B2B, it's all contracts, and it isn't a crime to not pay them. I could just declare bankruptcy and let the courts sort it out.
An attempted differentiation irrelevant to the point.
People run businesses. People demand money in return for materials and property, that would stop you from running a cost-free business if you wanted what they had.
Yes its physically possible to enter a contract and not uphold your end of the deal, while using government bankruptcy laws to better get away with it.
Your point?
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What intrusions into capitalist endeavors are you talking about?
The countless laws, regulations and bans on voluntary capitalistic interactions.
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You are conflating sale of goods with voluntary contributions to the systems in society that are maintained by government.
If every road in the country forced you to pay a toll and you opt out of paying because it was voluntary, you wouldn't pay. Nobody would.
I definitely wouldn't voluntary give my money to the police, would you?
Im not falsely conflating anything.
You misunderstood what I said and falsely claimed voluntary interactions are anti-capitalist and also that they wouldn't happen without taxes.
No one would pay a toll to use a road if every road had a toll? great theory. People must really not like travelling, and no one pays a toll now right?
presupposing all roads would have a toll without taxation is also an unfounded assumption.
Most people value security and would in fact voluntarily contribute to a service towards that end.
The forced funding of current police forces allows them to get away with heinous acts and poor service.
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