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Aug 7 2019 12:58am
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Declaring hostility to all your neighbors is a bold move Cotton.


I dared to suggest that people of different ethnic and racial groups should politically behave unbiased; that we're all in this together and identity politics is exclusionary and encourages friction. Oh my, the humanity.

I don't care if they come here legally. What I do care about is the demographic invasion (GASP white supremacist language!) of illegal immigrants who violate our laws and borders. Yes, they're coming here en masse and unannounced. What do you think it's called when someone enters your home unannounced and refuses to leave? It's called an invasion. It might not sound soft and sweet on the media text bar streaming at the bottom of a Starbucks television. But that's what it is. Suddenly having border and immigration laws has become a white supremacist concept because some racist asshole pounded out a manifesto.

I'd toy with the idea that radical leftists like yourself encourage white terrorists like the El Paso shooter. Your rhetoric fuels and inspires them with your unrealistic bullshit. It's like a cyclic beast. The far-left and far-right continue to divide themselves, feeding on each other's obscene and ever increasing, over-the-top ideologies, feeding El Paso and Dayton shooters alike. Moderates like me are left to make sense of this growing mess. When our logical or rational take on the subject doesn't suit a particular camp's ideology, we need to duck from the accusations.

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/05/us/connor-betts-dayton-shooting-profile/index.html

Tumblr warriors are now getting into the fray now. Its been excused and not addressed for so long it will expand.


You are a Tumblr warrior. I don't care if you're in your early 40s, wrestle crackheads, and are a good social worker. You demonstrate time and time again that you have the logical and emotional skill of a 20 year old Berkley student in a 40 year old's body who has read a few philosophy books and knows some SAT words.
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Aug 7 2019 01:23am
As I've explained before, I hope this shit stops, but hope is often futile in the face of desire. It seems Columbine was the poster child for this shit. Before any self-flagellating retard want to shout out: no, it's not just a white male problem, despite all of the media's efforts to convince you it is. It's a sickness in current day America's society. Look up the recent mass shootings and note the demographics and then consider the ethic proportions of the demographics.

Now that we've got that out the way, let's address another misconception. Mass shootings occurred in America's past. But they were far more irregular and rare. Despite the reputation of the roaring 20's and it's crime-ridden reputation with organized crime, America was actually a fairly mild country in terms of violence and random shootings. Stuff like Dillinger, Bonny & Clyde, etc., were the exception and thus immortalized. Then we get into the Boomer generation with the Texas University shooting or the police opening fire on protesters in Ohio, spurring Neil Young's "Four dead in Ohio".

This stuff isn't new. The 2nd Amendment was there in those previous hundreds of years and it's still here. Yet suddenly we're witnessing a spike in mass shootings.

So what's changed? Has the 2nd Amendment changed, or have we as a people and society changed? The 2nd Amendment is not the enemy, it's something more ulterior and inconvenient.

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As I've explained before, I hope this shit stops, but hope is often futile in the face of desire. It seems Columbine was the poster child for this shit. Before any self-flagellating retard want to shout out: no, it's not just a white male problem, despite all of the media's efforts to convince you it is. It's a sickness in current day America's society. Look up the recent mass shootings and note the demographics and then consider the ethic proportions of the demographics.

Now that we've got that out the way, let's address another misconception. Mass shootings occurred in America's past. But they were far more irregular and rare. Despite the reputation of the roaring 20's and it's crime-ridden reputation with organized crime, America was actually a fairly mild country in terms of violence and random shootings. Stuff like Dillinger, Bonny & Clyde, etc., were the exception and thus immortalized. Then we get into the Boomer generation with the Texas University shooting or the police opening fire on protesters in Ohio, spurring Neil Young's "Four dead in Ohio".

This stuff isn't new. The 2nd Amendment was there in those previous hundreds of years and it's still here. Yet suddenly we're witnessing a spike in mass shootings.

So what's changed? Has the 2nd Amendment changed, or have we as a people and society changed? The 2nd Amendment is not the enemy, it's something more ulterior and inconvenient.


What you are probably witnessing is how ironically it is white supremacy that cannot assimilate with American Society at large. Infact they choose not to and so the radicalized and deranged amongst them are doing these acts.

Aside from that factor id say that other issues could include drugs, abuse from society at large (school, parents etc) have gone up
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Aug 7 2019 06:53am
https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1158896220309512192

Tucker with the hot take that white supremacy isn't a problem at all. Hmmm, I can't imagine why people claim that his show contributes to the problem.
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Aug 7 2019 07:08am
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What you are probably witnessing is how ironically it is white supremacy that cannot assimilate with American Society at large. Infact they choose not to and so the radicalized and deranged amongst them are doing these acts.

Aside from that factor id say that other issues could include drugs, abuse from society at large (school, parents etc) have gone up


I agree with you. I think the El Paso shooter was a confirmed 8chan poster?

The chan sites are a special something. I occasionally browsed their boards for deleted ASMR material and you could smell the insecurity and racism from the screen.

These people exist out there. They might be that quiet guy working at the geek squad at your Best Buy for all you know. But they're out there. They have radical beliefs, find brutal harm to others as humorous, and are massively desensitized. That's the scary thing about them.

I think the guy who slashed the young girl's neck open was an 8channer and they all cheered him on for killing a "thot". That the crowd that's out there, the underscore of the toilet.

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Aug 7 2019 07:17am
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https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1158896220309512192

Tucker with the hot take that white supremacy isn't a problem at all. Hmmm, I can't imagine why people claim that his show contributes to the problem.


yeah like 7/10 of the last shooters have either a manifesto or a documented history of contributing on white supremacy boards. and nearly all of the shooters are white.

when the hood is violent Fox/Tucker call it a black responsibility problem, when 9/10 shooters are white it's just a coincidence... even without supremacy in play it's a 'white problem' when held to the standards Fox sets for urban crime.
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Aug 7 2019 08:52am
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yeah like 7/10 of the last shooters have either a manifesto or a documented history of contributing on white supremacy boards. and nearly all of the shooters are white.

when the hood is violent Fox/Tucker call it a black responsibility problem, when 9/10 shooters are white it's just a coincidence... even without supremacy in play it's a 'white problem' when held to the standards Fox sets for urban crime.


Are mass shootings up or down?

I'm not convinced that more would be shooters are being created, what percentage are just recycled mass killers that now have an ideology to cling to?
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Aug 7 2019 08:55am
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Are mass shootings up or down?

I'm not convinced that more would be shooters are being created, what percentage are just recycled mass killers that now have an ideology to cling to?


'mass shootings' as a category would need to be defined.

i think a more specific metric would be politically motivated attacks on public places where the victims are unknown to the shooter. which seem to be undoubtedly up. we have in large part transitioned from pure 'school shootings', into a more broad range of targets. and it seems attacking big box stores like Walmart are a new focus.
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Aug 7 2019 09:13am
So what's your point? I don't see anybody praising or supporting white supremacy.

There's honestly just shitty people out there just in general.
Give shitty people/crazy people a narrative, and they'll believe it and follow it. Or twist it.
I could use several examples from all sorts of backgrounds/ideologies/political beliefs.

This has been circulating about the Dayton shooters background.



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So what's your point? I don't see anybody praising or supporting white supremacy.

There's honestly just shitty people out there just in general.
Give shitty people/crazy people a narrative, and they'll believe it and follow it. Or twist it.
I could use several examples from all sorts of backgrounds/ideologies/political beliefs.

This has been circulating about the Dayton shooters background.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwLrRA8uSxA


did the dayton shooter specifically target republicans? did he have a political motive? did he go after people that antifa hates, vilifies, and singles out? if not, that's just disgusting false equivalence and a desperate attempt to make white nationalists appear less of a threat by suggesting 'look, both sides do it, so my emeror's rhetoric can't have anything to do with it'...
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