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Sep 27 2018 07:47pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 27 2018 11:55am)



“On a platform as open and diverse as Reddit, ”

Stop pls, it hurts
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Sep 27 2018 09:59pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 28 2018 03:09am)
Creating a second class form of speech is one of the corrosive elements that allows the erosion of free expression.
You can't force all the people who disagree with to wear a placard on their chest that denounces them as a heretic and charlatan before they're allowed to express their opinions.
And it just gives them a way to keep chipping away at the speech they want to censor without provoking the backlash of outright banning.
Firm protections of speech along an absolutist ground gives rise to a stark contrast of the window between the permissible and impermissible- child porn for example. And its hard to shift that window side to side
But a sliding scale of censorship allows for slowly shifting the boundaries and eroding the protected speech. One day you say holocaust denial is quarantined and fat hate is banned, then you say anti-immigration arguments are quarantined and holocause denial banned


So they've created their orwellian system where nobody is allowed to be exposed to the conflicting opinions of holocaust denial without reading through a warning like its a pack of cigarettes that says "The holocaust is real, a gorillion people died and everyone in this sub is wrong and heres a link if you wish to 'escape hate groups'". Its as utterly contemptuous as it is dogmatic. And frankly, I've never known anyone to be swayed by having opinions shoved down their throat aggressively. The easiest way to see that holocaust deniers are loons is to let them talk and to listen to them.


In all honesty, I don't agree with this. Indeed, the line may be somewhat blurry, but there's not really a different option. The only non-Orwellian solution would just be to ban everything that the general public shouldn't randomly get to see, and that would be actual censorship.
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Sep 27 2018 11:18pm
this is what you see on reddit now on this pages;


Whatever you think of their voices, they've been hidden from view, and in order to even read them you need to walk past reddit shoving their propaganda down your throat. Because even if its true, well evidenced, and morally right- its propaganda. What else can it be, if you're forcing your views upon someone by ramming your worldview onto them unsolicited. There isn't a pretense of neutrality. By all objective measures, the incels and redpillers are no more deranged over gender than the shrill harpies of 2X. Ying to each others yang. But you aren't about to see a splash page that directs women to information on "positive feminism" from Dana Loesch, Germaine Greer and Janice Raymond

The non-orwellian solution is to not be orwellian. Nobody put up with this insane bullshit 10 years ago. It never existed on d2jsp, the relic of an older age it is now.
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Sep 28 2018 12:08am
Quote (Goomshill @ 28 Sep 2018 07:18)
this is what you see on reddit now on this pages;
https://i.imgur.com/GxC2K5p.png

Whatever you think of their voices, they've been hidden from view, and in order to even read them you need to walk past reddit shoving their propaganda down your throat. Because even if its true, well evidenced, and morally right- its propaganda. What else can it be, if you're forcing your views upon someone by ramming your worldview onto them unsolicited. There isn't a pretense of neutrality. By all objective measures, the incels and redpillers are no more deranged over gender than the shrill harpies of 2X. Ying to each others yang. But you aren't about to see a splash page that directs women to information on "positive feminism" from Dana Loesch, Germaine Greer and Janice Raymond

The non-orwellian solution is to not be orwellian. Nobody put up with this insane bullshit 10 years ago. It never existed on d2jsp, the relic of an older age it is now.


it is ridiculous, yes. but anyone who gets put off or swayed by such cheap propaganda was weak-minded anyway, and the few worthwhile communities which are quarantined are better off without those people.

the shock value of seeing this warning message with a link to the view of reddit officials on the issue will decline really fast. soon, it will be like a cookie notification or the images on cigarette packets.
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Sep 28 2018 03:38am
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 28 2018 12:18am)
this is what you see on reddit now on this pages;
https://i.imgur.com/GxC2K5p.png

Whatever you think of their voices, they've been hidden from view, and in order to even read them you need to walk past reddit shoving their propaganda down your throat. Because even if its true, well evidenced, and morally right- its propaganda. What else can it be, if you're forcing your views upon someone by ramming your worldview onto them unsolicited. There isn't a pretense of neutrality. By all objective measures, the incels and redpillers are no more deranged over gender than the shrill harpies of 2X. Ying to each others yang. But you aren't about to see a splash page that directs women to information on "positive feminism" from Dana Loesch, Germaine Greer and Janice Raymond

The non-orwellian solution is to not be orwellian. Nobody put up with this insane bullshit 10 years ago. It never existed on d2jsp, the relic of an older age it is now.


Are the Jews involved here
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Sep 28 2018 04:21am
Quote (tonerbond @ Sep 27 2018 09:47pm)
“On a platform as open and diverse as Reddit, ”

Stop pls, it hurts



2 + 2 = 5 , bigot
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Sep 29 2018 05:40pm
Toronto library staff can now refuse event bookings 'likely' to promote hate
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-library-board-hate-room-booking-1.4443914



" Apparently, one can’t screen a documentary about radical Islam in a Canadian library nor can one screen a film about that documentary being censored!"



This post was edited by HeLiCaL on Sep 29 2018 05:44pm
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Toronto library staff can now refuse event bookings 'likely' to promote hate
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-library-board-hate-room-booking-1.4443914



" Apparently, one can’t screen a documentary about radical Islam in a Canadian library nor can one screen a film about that documentary being censored!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTs96dF5lKA


and? great choice
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Sep 30 2018 04:31pm
twitter source: DNC collusion with twitter is responsible for the James Woods ban

https://www.dailywire.com/news/36227/twitter-suspends-james-woods-woods-stands-his-ryan-saavedra?amp&__twitter_impression=true

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A high-level Twitter official who was not authorized to speak on the record told The Daily Wire last week that the platform was suspending accounts that tweeted "pieces of media," including memes and graphics, that falsely portrayed certain messages as coming from the Democratic party.

The official said that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) "flagged" the content for Twitter and the platform deemed it was part of a "misinformation campaign" that was being viewed as a "targeted voter suppression initiative."

The official said that they would do the same for the Republican National Committee (RNC), but did not know if the Republicans had ever flagged content for Twitter to review, or if the platform had ever taken the same actions for Republicans in the past. The Daily Wire spoke to multiple officials throughout the Republican Party about whether the party had ever flagged content for a social media platform to review — none of the officials were able to find any specific instances.


This post was edited by HeLiCaL on Sep 30 2018 04:31pm
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Sep 30 2018 04:34pm
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A high-level Twitter official who was not authorized to speak on the record
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