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Sep 10 2018 01:45pm
Quote (Ghot @ 10 Sep 2018 19:38)
Like I said before. We have no way of knowing ALL the facts in this case, so far. So it really worries me that YOU have condemned her already.
I just gave one example earlier, that could possibly paint a different picture of what happened.

The part that bothers me I guess, is the lack of conditional adjectives in your statements.


I mean... knowing what we know what other circumstances could possibly mean she doesn't deserve a prison sentence? Him saying something to her in an elevator, whatever that something is, doesn't mean she can walk into his house and shoot him. You 'paint a picture' but you don't justify murdering some dude in his house. So what?

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Sep 10 2018 02:14pm
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We are waiting

I've been updating the thread with details that come out

Given what we already know including what she herself has already said what scenario is this not at minimum textbook manslaughter?

even your racist and baseless and cop defending elevator harassment story would be at least be manslaughter given her own words.




Well between the article in the OP and the one in post #107 we have some conflicting information.

The article in the OP said she got off the elevator at the wrong floor and was trying to open the wrong apt. door when the guy inside opened it.

The article in post #107 says she "parked" on the wrong level of a parking garage, and that the guy's door was unlocked and that the lights were off.

Two largely different stories.

Even the Texas Rangers advised the police to hold off on charging her with manslaughter, until they had more evidence.
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Sep 10 2018 02:22pm
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Well between the article in the OP and the one in post #107 we have some conflicting information.

The article in the OP said she got off the elevator at the wrong floor and was trying to open the wrong apt. door when the guy inside opened it.

The article in post #107 says she "parked" on the wrong level of a parking garage, and that the guy's door was unlocked and that the lights were off.

Two largely different stories.

Even the Texas Rangers advised the police to hold off on charging her with manslaughter, until they had more evidence.


she's been charged

and both of those are still minimum manslaughter

reckless death of an individual

I believe texas doesn't do involuntary and voluntary so it wouldn't be involuntary as we know it currently just manslaughter
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Sep 10 2018 09:27pm
Now she is claiming that he wouldn't follow her verbal commands, so she fired. And also that she fired into the darkness and then turned on the light to realize that she was in the wrong apartment.

So she couldn't tell that it was someone else's apartment but she could tell that he wasn't following her commands. Hm.

Then there's the eye witnesses that contradict the "door was ajar" part of her statement.

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Sep 10 2018 11:00pm
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Now she is claiming that he wouldn't follow her verbal commands, so she fired. And also that she fired into the darkness and then turned on the light to realize that she was in the wrong apartment.

So she couldn't tell that it was someone else's apartment but she could tell that he wasn't following her commands. Hm.

Then there's the eye witnesses that contradict the "door was ajar" part of her statement.


Well he's under no obligation to follow her commands.... soooooooo she's still screwed.
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Sep 10 2018 11:20pm
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Now she is claiming that he wouldn't follow her verbal commands, so she fired. And also that she fired into the darkness and then turned on the light to realize that she was in the wrong apartment.

So she couldn't tell that it was someone else's apartment but she could tell that he wasn't following her commands. Hm.

Then there's the eye witnesses that contradict the "door was ajar" part of her statement.


Feel like she just starting lying in a panic to try cover her ass.
If she was giving verbal commands after clearly identifying herself as a police officer not one innocent black man in your country wouldnt lay on the floor with his hands on his head to prevent what he knew was coming.
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Sep 11 2018 05:46am


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/prosecutor-suggests-stronger-charge-against-dallas-officer-who-killed-neighbor-n908156

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Dallas County's top prosecutor suggested Monday that a stronger charge of murder is possible against the Dallas police officer who killed her neighbor after she mistakenly entered his apartment.

District Attorney Faith Johnson also attempted to deflect criticism of perceived special treatment in the case against Officer Amber Guyger to the Texas Rangers, the state's top law enforcement agency that was summoned to independently investigate last Thursday's fatal shooting.

It took almost three days before Guyger, 30, was arrested on a warrant for manslaughter after the fatal shooting of Botham Shem Jean, 26, and booked in a jail in neighboring Kaufman County. She was later released on a $300,000 bond, reported NBC Dallas-Fort Worth.


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On Monday night, NBC affiliate KXAS obtained a warrant for a search on Jean's home that was executed Saturday. The warrant sought "evidence of a criminal offense" and listed items including "fired projectiles," cartridge casings, and "trace evidence such as blood."


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It also listed "any contraband, such as narcotics, and other items that may have been used in criminal offenses ... ."

Authorities also sought a laptop and iPhone 7 Plus from Jean's apartment, according to the warrant.

As Johnson continues to build a case against Guyger to present to a grand jury, a criminal justice expert said it's not unusual for law enforcement agencies to take their time before charging a suspect and that seeking a charge of murder may be difficult.


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The warrant for the Saturday search on Jean's unit states that he was "expecting an unknown visitor" and that his laptop or mobile phone "may contain evidence of such communications" with the visitor.


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Lawyers for Jean's family have disputed what they described as the "prevailing narrative" of Jean's death, saying they provided evidence from a witness and video footage to authorities on Sunday.

One of the lawyers, Lee Merritt, initially declined to discuss the details of that evidence with reporters but said it "contradicts ... the idea that this officer stumbled into the wrong apartment."

Merritt later told KXAS, "We don't believe that the door was ajar." The attorney added that he believes there is "corroborated testimony" that "there was witnesses who heard her banging on the door saying let me in."
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Sep 11 2018 06:12am
The thot plickens.
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Sep 11 2018 06:16am
Why are they being prosecuted? I thought cops were allowed to be brutal in terrible america
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Sep 11 2018 06:35am
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Why are they being prosecuted? I thought cops were allowed to be brutal in terrible america


Charged isn't convicted
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