It's only immoral depending on the system you are working in.

What actions are good depends on how you define good.

I've yet to see you provide any evidence that that's the case.

It's quite a claim considering the hundreds or possibly thousands of books and theses written by ethics/philosophy Ph.Ds on specifically the relationship between meat production and utilitarianism (and every other conceivable ethical system) overwhelmingly suggest that meat production and especially factory farming are overwhelmingly anti-utilitarian (and unethical in basically every other ethical system). This is an overwhelming professional consensus.



And you have provided no evidence of any of these examples being applicable to the actual world. Though the fact you think meat production increases net utility in the world I'm pretty hesitant to take your ability to rationally evaluate utility (or morality in general) seriously.

Dude, you're out of your league. He heard about Utilitarianism TWO WHOLE DAYS AGO. What can you possibly do against his amazing knowledge of the subject?

>Mass producing meat which substantially lowers the cost of meat and as a result people from lower economic backgrounds are able to consume said commodity is anti utilitarian, you've heard it here folks. More people are able to afford meat than ever before, specifically because of this mass production. Quite ironic how you can't see this world reality yet accuse me of not being able to see how the world works.

I'm curios do you think it would be ethical for an overwhelming percentage of the globe to be unable to afford meat because first world soyboys like you decided that their affordable meat is unethical?



Nipping at heels, what thor does best.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jan 3 2018 10:50pm

You're really short sighted since you can't see a really obvious answer is that plant based protein is cheaper to produce, store, and transport.

The only utility meat has over plant is taste, and that's a shitty reason to cause so much suffering.

You need to do some research because this is one of the biggest teaching lessons in intro philosophy courses, utility of meat versus plants. You're embarrassing yourself by acting like you understand utilitarianism and not being aware of the very easy counters to your arguments that are routinely pointed out by freshman students.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jan 3 2018 11:07pm

plant > doge

I just made up a new word for PaRD.


Argumation: n.

1. Arguing about arguing.

It's tiring to see just how many PaRD posters, feel the need to resort to argumation.

How will you fix arguments if you can't discuss the arguments?

Another clear cut case of argumation.

That's such a cool story bro.

I'm gonna call posts by Ghot stupidisms, which the above is definitely one of.