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Oct 18 2017 12:00pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 18 2017 12:58pm)
So this isn’t about Rostom purchasing a 51% stake in Uranium One so they could enrich uranium for the United States (which is totally fine and mutually beneficial), it’s about the FBI knowing about cash kickbacks to the Clinton Foundation. I sincerely wish this was the cover story and not the propagandist “Russia controls 30% of American uranium” tripe ring used as a smokescreen to make Trump’s Russia collusion “okay” because... “I’m rubber, you’re glue”


Absolutely agree.
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Oct 18 2017 12:09pm
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So this isn’t about Rosatom purchasing a 51% stake in Uranium One so they could enrich uranium for the United States (which is totally fine and mutually beneficial), it’s about the FBI potentially knowing about cash kickbacks to the Clinton Foundation. I sincerely wish this was the cover story and not the propagandist “Russia controls 20% of American uranium” tripe being used as a smokescreen to make Trump’s Russia collusion “okay” because... “I’m rubber, you’re glue”


Not entirely
While Rosatom's stake was mostly innocuous, lots of congressmen had (obviously politically motivated) reservations about the national security and safety of the deal in general, and the Obama administration reassured that it was all totally fine and mutually beneficial by insisting that the Russian companies involved were trustworthy and clean. Its less about the FBI knowing about the cash kickbacks to the Clintons, and more about the FBI knowing about the existence of a bribery ring that compromised US truckers and send the money to high level Russian officials.
On its own, the bribery doesn't mean Russia is seizing our uranium or spiriting it out of the country, even after the eventual loosening of the rules that let them export some, that's not the thrust of the issue.
But the part where the FBI slowrolled the investigation and covered it up so that the deal could go ahead, without informing CFIUS/lawmakers/regulators about the existence of a national security breach and the criminal network involved- that's the damning part.

If this had been public knowledge or at least known to regulators, the Uranium One deal would never have gone ahead, it would have been scuttled by the scandal, nobody would want to be involved with it.
So if the FBI was indeed compromising their investigation and covering up in order to smoother over the Uranium One deal, then thats the scandal, that's obstruction of justice, that's the big new revelation.
If Obama knew about the misdealings and was lying to congressmen to get the deal to pass, that's a scandal at minimum

As far as the clintons go, they're almost a distraction here just because everyone knows they'll never get touched and they're disgraced now anyway.

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Oct 18 2017 04:49pm
The more you frame it that way, and the more I look at it, the more this seems like a Trump effort to discredit Mueller.

I want justice to be served, of course, but I think we also risk the GOP and the Trump administration leeching off this and aborting justice before it comes to full term.
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Oct 18 2017 04:50pm
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damn. they wiped the fuck out of that thread
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Oct 18 2017 06:03pm
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The more you frame it that way, and the more I look at it, the more this seems like a Trump effort to discredit Mueller.

I want justice to be served, of course, but I think we also risk the GOP and the Trump administration leeching off this and aborting justice before it comes to full term.




Except for the fact that this all happened before Trump was pres. and before anyone even thought to investigate him.
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Oct 18 2017 06:33pm
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The more you frame it that way, and the more I look at it, the more this seems like a Trump effort to discredit Mueller.
I want justice to be served, of course, but I think we also risk the GOP and the Trump administration leeching off this and aborting justice before it comes to full term.


But like I say, does Trump even benefit from discrediting Mueller at this stage? If the investigation was already going well for him, he has no reason to rock the boat
And as ghot says, all the details we know about this case so far have zero connection to Trump- its an FBI informant who was operating long before Trump was in politics and is whistleblowing independently now

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damn. they wiped the fuck out of that thread


they permabanned every single person who posted in it
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Oct 18 2017 06:37pm
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they permabanned every single person who posted in it


Besides T_D, Reddit is an arm of the Democratic party. It's crazy how biased their news and politics section are.
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Oct 18 2017 06:40pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 18 2017 10:49pm)
The more you frame it that way, and the more I look at it, the more this seems like a Trump effort to discredit Mueller.

I want justice to be served, of course, but I think we also risk the GOP and the Trump administration leeching off this and aborting justice before it comes to full term.


ahhhh....

no
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Oct 18 2017 06:56pm
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Besides T_D, Reddit is an arm of the Democratic party. It's crazy how biased their news and politics section are.


:hug:
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Oct 18 2017 06:59pm
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Besides T_D, Reddit is an arm of the Democratic party. It's crazy how biased their news and politics section are.


news and politics are ironic opposites
news has extreme leftwing nazimods who try to curate the narrative, but mostly right-wing comments as people react to the endless headlines of 'brown people commit crimes'
politics has generally unbiased mods who only lean slightly left in their rules enforcement, but raving extreme leftwing commenters
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