Quote (Skinned @ Sep 11 2017 06:17pm)

Is sociology used in anything but marketing though?

I'm a social worker and we don't use it. We have our own theories that fall into line with allied health science.

Pretty sure only business uses sociology....and business science isn't precise at all....sociology and economics are great, important disciplines for sure, just not uses for a lot.

One master of sociology I know runs a call center for gallop poll. Other does fund raising and development. My professor in my intro classes was a marketer. Afaik there is no job title sociologist. This was one of the reasons I went with an applied science instead of a research one like economics and sociology.




Biology is as much social as physical. And medicine is an area things have to be very exact yet playa between the physical and social sciences....particularly psych meds. Unless you have some model of personality already you wouldn't even know what you're looking for.

It all runs together. This phallic compartmentalization youre doing from hard to soft only exists in academia. Everything where it really counts is interdisciplinary.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 11 2017 10:25pm)

More people would leave if the cost of staying wasn't diluted by charity.

Even if your claim that the magnitude is small is true, that still doesn't change that my argument is sound.

Quote (EndlessSky @ Sep 11 2017 08:43pm)

I love how you're still under the deluded impression that charity isn't a business governed by voluntary exchange.

Quote (Skinned @ Sep 11 2017 05:17pm)

Is sociology used in anything but marketing though?

I'm a social worker and we don't use it. We have our own theories that fall into line with allied health science.

Pretty sure only business uses sociology....and business science isn't precise at all....sociology and economics are great, important disciplines for sure, just not uses for a lot.

One master of sociology I know runs a call center for gallop poll. Other does fund raising and development. My professor in my intro classes was a marketer. Afaik there is no job title sociologist. This was one of the reasons I went with an applied science instead of a research one like economics and sociology.




Biology is as much social as physical. And medicine is an area things have to be very exact yet playa between the physical and social sciences....particularly psych meds. Unless you have some model of personality already you wouldn't even know what you're looking for.

It all runs together. This phallic compartmentalization youre doing from hard to soft only exists in academia. Everything where it really counts is interdisciplinary.

Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 11 2017 11:48pm)

Quote (GodSmiter @ Sep 12 2017 12:04am)

exactly all this talk is irrelevant because all of sciences are based in empiricism. Absolute truths are only derived from logic. Arguing which sciences are more legitimate than the other is nothing but people showing what they value more

Quote (duffman316 @ 12 Sep 2017 06:48)

Quote (GodSmiter @ 12 Sep 2017 07:04)

exactly all this talk is irrelevant because all of sciences are based in empiricism. Absolute truths are only derived from logic. Arguing which sciences are more legitimate than the other is nothing but people showing what they value more

Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 12 2017 01:35am)

in the end it's all dick waving

Quote (GodSmiter @ Sep 12 2017 01:04am)

exactly all this talk is irrelevant because all of sciences are based in empiricism. Absolute truths are only derived from logic. Arguing which sciences are more legitimate than the other is nothing but people showing what they value more

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 12 2017 07:46am)

thats exactly the point: purity ≠ legitimacy ≠ usefulness. those three are different things! yes, we can quite unambiguously arrange the fields according to their purity. but no, this doesnt necessarily imply that the same order holds when sorting for legitimacy or usefulness. moreover, it's not even possible to find an unambiguous order for these categories.

Quote (Magicman657 @ Sep 11 2017 10:27pm)

You had quite a lot to say, and yet, no where in that defense did you ever address the very real issue of reliability and repeatablility of the studies in the field. THAT'S what sets the social sciences aside from the "hard" sciences. The "hard" sciences aren't the ones often skirting the scientific method by using misleading / manipulated P values when discussing their results.