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Sep 10 2015 03:36pm
Quote (CarsV @ 10 Sep 2015 16:12)
No, it pays to have control over who enters your lands and countries. Ask the Romans, the Armenians, and American Indians about how important this is. Don't be fooled by numbers either. They're expecting what, roughly one million for 2015? Well what happens if one or more million come the next year, and the next? I could always be wrong, maybe things will subside. But why should they? When you have politicians and brainwashed liberals essentially holding up signs stating "Refugees welcome!", why should they stop coming? Some people like to blame all of this on big, bad, evil American foreign policy. Perhaps the war serves as some catalyst to a degree, but even without the war they'd still be coming. It's EU policy, which dictates: anyone fleeing poverty will not be rejected. That policy can apply to billions of people around the world. It's like feeding bears or squirrels. There's a reason why they tell people not to do it. Once they get an impression they're welcome and you won't resist, they'll keep coming back, and potentially more of them each time.

Don't forget these people generally don't practice responsible birth control either. They trend to reproduce at a far greater rate. Contrary to popular belief, an aging population is not a bad thing, it's a sign that a society is stabilizing. This bullshit that "population growth, population growth, rah-rah! more people! population growth!" is such foolish poppycock. You see a lot of this crap from advocates of illegal immigration here in the US, too.

I'm also sick and tired of people calling these people "refugees".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ7QnMJpzpE

Dick move by the camera woman, by the way. Refugees don't run from authorities. Notice they're not in a hurry to get to other countries like, say.... Russia or Saudi Arabia. That's because they know Europe is weak with political correctness; they know Europeans are afraid to turn them away because mindless drones like duffman316 will enter the fray with redundant crap "blah blah blah, racism, blah blah you hate brown people" to squelch any reasonable opposition and discussion. So tired of the race card being played that it no longer even bothers me. Go on, call me a racist, I don't even give a fuck, I'll just agree with you.

http://s11.postimg.org/vbyreb7n7/refugee_path.jpg

The wealthy gulf nations aren't taking any in. They're not in any hurry to get to Russia or India. They're perfectly safe in other countries like Turkey. But no, no they keep valiantly marching onwards to those socialist promised lands. They're after all that butter, those succulent welfare nations. Almost reminds me of the first crusades. Dark ages Europe was basically a shithole, rampant war, famine, and religious extremism. Suddenly, the lowly European peasants up and moved to the "promised lands", the more civilized Arabian and muslim lands.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry for Europeans, particularly the recipient countries like Germany or Sweden. It's like their medias have all brainwashed them into assuming the position over a barrel to allow themselves to get fucked in their collective asses. The way the media is handling this nothing short of manipulative propaganda. As I mentioned before, look for un-edited footage of these "refugees". The media has a hard-on for cherry-picking heart-tugging photos and stories such as the drowned Syrian boy; a boy who was perfectly safe in Turkey, by the way, until his parents decided to become economic migrants and endangered him.




I feel sorry for people like you that feel no empathy, that worry only about themselves and the tiny little circle that they've drawn around themselves. You see weakness in the countries that are heroically taking in record numbers of refugees, yet you are in a tiny selfish minority. Most of the world looks upon them as the examples of selfless giving that all of us can aspire to.

Tell me what good are all of the goods we acquire if we store it all away and then look out the window and watch our neighbors starve to death? What kind of monsters do we become when do just do nothing. There is injustice in non-action we have a responsibility as human beings to not let fellow human beings perish.

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Sep 10 2015 03:39pm
Quote (Valhalls_Sun @ Sep 10 2015 09:32pm)
I feel sorry for people like you that feel no empathy, that worry only about themselves and the tiny little circle that they've drawn around themselves. You see weakness in the countries that are heroically taking in record numbers of refugees, yet you are in a tiny selfish minority. Most of the world looks upon them as the examples of selfless giving that all of us can aspire to.

Tell me what good are all of the goods we acquire if we store it all away and then look out the window and watch our neighbors starve to death? What kind of monsters do we become when do just do nothing. There is injustice in non-action we have a responsibility as human beings to not let fellow human beings perish.


Oh sod off with that crap. There's a difference from having reasonable empathy as opposed to being gamed and played like a fiddle. There is such as thing as using both your brain and heart instead of just your bleeding heart to get through life. It's people like you who'll never be able to make the tough decisions. This EU policy, this western mentality that "if you're fleeing poverty, we will not reject you, welcome!" can apply to millions, maybe billions, of impoverished and desperate people worldwide. Are you going to save them all? if you keep sending messages to them that you won't resist them, they can freely pour into your country and expect a lifestyle, then shit, why would they not come?

Anyway, I seriously doubt Valhalls_Sun will be housing, clothing, and feeding any of these people. No, people like him are happy as long as it falls on the public purse. Heaven forbid if he has to risk his own little habitat for his ideals.

This post was edited by CarsV on Sep 10 2015 03:54pm
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Quote (Shadowoffury @ Sep 7 2015 03:54am)
Hans Rosling to the rescue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uljFaRuJ68

As usual, the people who are most vocal on this subject are those who understand it the least.


Tell that to these people:



Note how many males are in the background ^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3&v=WK4i98_lU_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8X9oay_mo8

But I guess their voices don't fucking matter. Fuck 'em, they're just Greeks, right? Who cares what they think or want.

PS, is there some sort of limit to one video link per post?

This post was edited by CarsV on Sep 10 2015 07:50pm
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Sep 10 2015 08:22pm
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Tell that to these people:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGiMJY8v0jA

Note how many males are in the background ^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3&v=WK4i98_lU_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8X9oay_mo8

But I guess their voices don't fucking matter. Fuck 'em, they're just Greeks, right? Who cares what they think or want.

PS, is there some sort of limit to one video link per post?


about 11% of non-citizen residents of greece are Syrian refugees. Are the other 89% no problem, in your opinion?

The fact that some people are racist doesn't mean that... well, I don't even understand what point you're trying to make.

I could post videos of people in America or the UK getting mad that there are black people in their country. It's not that their voices don't matter, it's that they aren't the only ones who matter. Just because they're the loudest doesn't mean they're the ones you should listen to.
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Sep 10 2015 08:25pm
Quote (CarsV @ Sep 10 2015 07:49pm)
Tell that to these people:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGiMJY8v0jA

Note how many males are in the background ^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=3&v=WK4i98_lU_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8X9oay_mo8

But I guess their voices don't fucking matter. Fuck 'em, they're just Greeks, right? Who cares what they think or want.

PS, is there some sort of limit to one video link per post?


A bunch of parasite invaders.
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Sep 10 2015 09:03pm
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about 11% of non-citizen residents of greece are Syrian refugees. Are the other 89% no problem, in your opinion?

The fact that some people are racist doesn't mean that... well, I don't even understand what point you're trying to make.

I could post videos of people in America or the UK getting mad that there are black people in their country. It's not that their voices don't matter, it's that they aren't the only ones who matter. Just because they're the loudest doesn't mean they're the ones you should listen to.


What the fuck? Literally, what the fuck? The fact that you boil this down into racism speaks volumes of your mentality. So you're psychic and can read these distressed Greek people's minds? If you don't open your arms and welcome rampant illegal immigration into your society, you're a nasty, wicked racist? Is that it?

I've read reports that the majority of these illegal immigrants aren't even Syrian, many of them are taking advantage of the situation. The accuracy of those reports may vary, but it's most likely true that many of these "refugees" are not Syrian. There are illegal trafficking and smuggling operations exploiting these people. Makes sense.

I digress. What the literal fuck is your point? I'm pointing out that the native GREEK people are getting BONED by this mass influx of illegal, economic migrants. Nobody gives one flying fuck about them. All you do is go through the usual libtard motions, "blah blah blah, racism".

Do these look like desperate people to you?



What about these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIC1kbknIK8

Every non-bullshit video or photo I see of this crap shows loads of healthy, often well-dressed, and motivated males between ages 15-50. The heart-tugging media is cherry-picking the soft and sob stories and swaying public opinion.

This post was edited by CarsV on Sep 10 2015 09:03pm
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Sep 10 2015 09:11pm
You know what, I say, when economic times get rough in America, we should encourage all of our poor, white, religious folk (might as well make it about race, seems to be the fashionable thing to do) to pour into neighboring countries so they can demand a better life on someone else's welfare system. If they resist this, they are racist. What do you say, Canadians and Mexicans?

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Sep 10 2015 09:20pm
lol what are you talking about? This discussion is about Syrian refugees... do you realize what the thread is called? Suddenly I'm retarded for making the conversation about Syrians?

You need to relax.

If you think these people are fleeing Syria because "economic times are getting rough"... Well, I guess your argument is really self-defeating at that point, not too much more for me to say.
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Quote (Shadowoffury @ Sep 11 2015 03:20am)
lol what are you talking about? This discussion is about Syrian refugees... do you realize what the thread is called? Suddenly I'm retarded for making the conversation about Syrians?

You need to relax.

If you think these people are fleeing Syria because "economic times are getting rough"... Well, I guess your argument is really self-defeating at that point, not too much more for me to say.


That's my point, they're not "refugees". They're passively invading western nations because of hard times in their own countries. They're invading western socialist nations because they know they're weak and will take in on the chin. They want those welfare benefits, and they know they'll be given out because the host countries are too pussy to show a backbone in fear of being called bigots by shitheads such as yourself. They can smell the liberal fear, the politically correct weakness in the air. They know all they have to do is wash up on European shores and call themselves "refugees", make some dramatic photos, and they'll garner UN and EU refugee status--all the while insisting they're REFUGEES. Again, these people could flock to and stay in NUMEROUS other countries where they'd be safe. But NO, NO, they're BARGING their way through mainland Europe, defying nations and laws. You're no different than Bono. You'll never bear any responsibility for this shit. Spineless, ethno-masochist cuckolds such as you, Valhalls_Sun, and Bono are giving them the go-ahead through your misplaced sense of bleeding-heart and social justice bullshit.

For those curious about the Bono comment:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJXqnYCWW7Y



This post was edited by CarsV on Sep 10 2015 11:12pm
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Quote (CarsV @ 11 Sep 2015 03:03)
What the fuck? Literally, what the fuck? The fact that you boil this down into racism speaks volumes of your mentality. So you're psychic and can read these distressed Greek people's minds? If you don't open your arms and welcome rampant illegal immigration into your society, you're a nasty, wicked racist? Is that it?

I've read reports that the majority of these illegal immigrants aren't even Syrian, many of them are taking advantage of the situation. The accuracy of those reports may vary, but it's most likely true that many of these "refugees" are not Syrian. There are illegal trafficking and smuggling operations exploiting these people. Makes sense.

I digress. What the literal fuck is your point? I'm pointing out that the native GREEK people are getting BONED by this mass influx of illegal, economic migrants. Nobody gives one flying fuck about them. All you do is go through the usual libtard motions, "blah blah blah, racism".

Do these look like desperate people to you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY9HYV3ZNgA

What about these?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIC1kbknIK8

Every non-bullshit video or photo I see of this crap shows loads of healthy, often well-dressed, and motivated males between ages 15-50. The heart-tugging media is cherry-picking the soft and sob stories and swaying public opinion.


That's because you believe the 'non-bullshit stories' are the ones that appease your ideology. Maybe you should do some research before you blindly repost whatever you find on whatever right-wing facebook page you're throwing all your likes at.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/03/hungary-train-diverts-refugees-back-to-camp
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