This. "Shooting to injure" is a ridiculous idea when using deadly force, which is why police are taught never to shoot someone in the leg or whatever.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Jan 25 2015 01:46pm

I can't resist this just sounds funny. So by the same reasoning you'd support police shooting legged citizens in the arms?


seriously though if you kneecap someone they're going to be down I don't care who they are

I tore the ligaments in my knee once when my stilt broke, wow what pain that was.

As a citizen, you do not have the right to point a gun at somebody simply to detain them. That's illegal brandishing of a firearm.


I said the lawful actions occur simultaneously. If you feel that your life is in immediate risk by this knife-man, it is legal to point a gun at him and shoot him. But its it not legal to point a gun at him to just scare him away. If you dont shoot him, you weren't legitimately in fear of losing your life and your self-defense case falls flat on its face. If you really felt that you were about to be killed, you would have shot him. If you dont shoot him, you are illegally brandishing a firearm at a non lethal threat. Illegal as this may be, in a real lite situation the knife-man you scared away isn't likely to press charges against you, since by doing so he would be forced to admit he broke into the home.

no id

rape them

lol

well did, my statement was more based on people with guns in hand. I can shoot pretty damn well from my knees

well if it's you ....that's a different game I've got a flail with ith el eth in it just waiting





We live in different parts of the country, My daughter would tear your reasoning up if I were charged with not shooting a suspect when he broke into my house carrying a knife. Instead Just successfully holding him at bay with my gun.....do you even know how silly you sound?

My godyou sounds fucking dumb. Your shit logic wouldn't stand up in court for a fucking second so please as I asked before stop acting like you know something. I could be charging at someone full force with a machete in my han yelling im gonna rape your dead corpse and theres still a portion of the population that with a gun in hand wouldn't pull the trigger because they don't have the stones. Fear of danger and action are unrelated, perhaps you should go and ask a few million holocaust victims if failure to act is a direct connection with fear for life. The entire concept of open carry vs closed carry is to use firearms presence as a deterrent. Have I made enough analogies to let you know how silly your logic was?

To the people talking about shooting people in the legs in a legal self-defense situation, from a legal perspective the reason why its a bad idea is because shooting somebody in the foot is just as legal as shooting them 4 times in the chest or head. Once you pull the trigger, you are using lethal force. Whether or not you kill them, doesn't make a difference is the eyes of the law. This is why police shoot to kill - because they can. It makes the legal process cheaper, faster, and much more defensible when you dont have a living person to testify against you. If you really cant stand the thought of killing a person, you could choose to just shoot them in the knee, but you're going to have a harder time proving that your actions were in self defense. If you had the leisure to aim at their knee (and possibly miss), it appear that you didn't really have to need use deadly force in the first place.



I'm honestly having trouble understanding what you are trying to say. Could you possibly rephrase that and indicate what law makes that scenario legal? My intent is only to point out what is legal and what isn't legal. If its legal to point a gun at somebody in your state without shooting them, then it is news to me and I'd really appreciate it if you could alleviate of my ignorance on the issue by telling me about that law. I know in some states its legal to shoot an unarmed intruder on sight and I'm not sure what gun brandishing laws apply in those situations. But to my understanding, pointing a gun at somebody is never legal unless you shoot them.


I'm not talking about logic or opinions. I'm only talking about the law. If you want to make any posts regarding laws, I'd be interested in hearing them. But so far you haven't said anything about legalities and your insults are also irrelevant to the matter.

This post was edited by NatureNames on Jan 25 2015 06:47pm

why would i kill my playmate? keep him locked in the basement.