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Nov 23 2012 01:44pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ Nov 23 2012 11:23am)
Maybe just read what I post ? Reality is there if you are ready to see it, I gave you all the keys already... I will answer anyway, and (re)post a quote.

Reality = the truth = the present moment = life = that which is... that which stands the test of experience.
In other words, the truth is that which is the same for everyone (like 2+2=4), that anyone can check for itself.
You can think what you want, but "that which is" is the same for everyone.



Jesus said, "In me, all things become one, for everything that is not of me is illusion and will pass away. Only Light abides, for Light is Truth, and Truth has no end. I tell you the truth when I say that I am the Way, the Truth, the Light, and the Life. Walk in me, and you will abide forever, for you will be even as I AM."

Again ? For everything that is not me is illusion and will pass away...  I tell you the truth when I say thatI am the Way,the Truth, the Light, and the Life.


Ok. Reality exists.

Now show me that Jesus is the only way to exist in it

(Fun fact, you can't)
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Nov 23 2012 01:48pm
Quote (Impose @ 23 Nov 2012 20:44)
Ok. Reality exists.

Now show me that Jesus is the only way to exist in it

(Fun fact, you can't)


You did not read what I post obviously, the answer of your question is in my last post.
Now what about you guys explain me what is reality if you can explain it better than me ?
I will say it one last time, then I will stop answer to your free bump spam posts : the truth contest is an open contest, if you want to submit an entry just do it (you can post it here and I will forward it to the admin of the truth contest if it is rational and backed up with proof).
I do not care if you try to misslead people here with your non-sense beliefs, truth seekers will be hitted by the obvious.
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Nov 23 2012 01:51pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ 23 Nov 2012 14:48)
You did not read what I post obviously, the answer of your question is in my last post.
Now what about you guys explain me what is reality if you can explain it better than me ?
I will say it one last time, then I will stop answer to your free bump spam posts : the truth contest is an open contest, if you want to submit an entry just do it (you can post it here and I will forward it to the admin of the truth contest if it is rational and backed up with proof).
I do not care if you try to misslead people here with your non-sense beliefs, truth seekers will be hitted by the obvious.


I hate to tell you, but addressing the topic and discussing it is kinda the point of this forum. Thus, it's not spam to discuss the topic in question.

And again, no one's saying that the central thesis of "Reality is but the present moment" isn't true. It's all of the extra shit, like lying about Jesus' words and the fact that it's been said better thousands of times before this shitty book came out. :(
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Nov 23 2012 01:52pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ Nov 23 2012 11:48am)
You did not read what I post obviously, the answer of your question is in my last post.
Now what about you guys explain me what is reality if you can explain it better than me ?
I will say it one last time, then I will stop answer to your free bump spam posts : the truth contest is an open contest, if you want to submit an entry just do it (you can post it here and I will forward it to the admin of the truth contest if it is rational and backed up with proof).
I do not care if you try to misslead people here with your non-sense beliefs, truth seekers will be hitted by the obvious.


My nonsense beliefs as opposed to yours?

Good heavens you are confused.

I'll pray for you

Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Nov 23 2012 11:51am)
I hate to tell you, but addressing the topic and discussing it is kinda the point of this forum.  Thus, it's not spam to discuss the topic in question. 

And again, no one's saying that the central thesis of "Reality is but the present moment" isn't true.  It's all of the extra shit, like lying about Jesus' words and the fact that it's been said better thousands of times before this shitty book came out.  :(

Oh and this

This post was edited by Impose on Nov 23 2012 01:52pm
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Quote (Impose @ 23 Nov 2012 14:52)
My nonsense beliefs as opposed to yours?

Good heavens you are confused.

I'll pray for you

Oh and this


It seems to me that what it really boils down to is just not wanting to go through the trouble of reading up on all of the various philosophies that are out there, finding one that's functional enough to get the job done, and just sticking to that rather than trying to push the envelope and actually get closer to the truth itself.

Which is fine, but I can't understand why he has to attack and ridicule people for thinking differently than he does.
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Nov 23 2012 01:58pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ 23 Nov 2012 20:51)
I hate to tell you, but addressing the topic and discussing it is kinda the point of this forum.  Thus, it's not spam to discuss the topic in question. 

And again, no one's saying that the central thesis of "Reality is but the present moment" isn't true.  It's all of the extra shit, like lying about Jesus' words and the fact that it's been said better thousands of times before this shitty book came out.  :(


You are funny.
If it's been said better thousands of time, just post it here --> that is all I ask in this thread, everything else is free bump as I said several time.
I do not need your closed-minded opinions, all I need is truth.

Just in case you still do not get it :

If it's been said better thousands of time, just post it here --> that is all I ask in this thread, everything else is free bump as I said several time.

Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ 23 Nov 2012 20:58)
It seems to me that what it really boils down to is just not wanting to go through the trouble of reading up on all of the various philosophies that are out there, finding one that's functional enough to get the job done, and just sticking to that rather than trying to push the envelope and actually get closer to the truth itself. 

Which is fine, but I can't understand why he has to attack and ridicule people for thinking differently than he does.


You gotta be kidding me.
I just post quotes and you say I attack you ?
I am done with you.

This post was edited by Eti_fr on Nov 23 2012 02:00pm
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Nov 23 2012 02:02pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ 23 Nov 2012 14:58)
You are funny.
If it's been said better thousands of time, just post it here --> that is all I ask in this thread, everything else is free bump as I said several time.
I do not need your closed-minded opinions, all I need is truth.

Just in case you still do not get it :

If it's been said better thousands of time, just post it here --> that is all I ask in this thread, everything else is free bump as I said several time.


I've posted a couple of books that drive at similar points without all of the logical inconsistencies, and I've still read a lot more of your book than you have read of either of the books that I posted. So there's that.

The problem is not being interested in the actual truth. :(

Quote (Eti_fr @ 23 Nov 2012 14:58)
You gotta be kidding me.
I just post quotes and you say I attack you ?
I am done with you.


When you call people spammers for disagreeing with you, and when you say their philosophies are wrong, when you call other peoples' belief systems "Nonsense beliefs" without even finding out what their beliefs are... how is that not attacking? Explain to me how calling someone's deeply held philosophical values "Nonsense beliefs" without actually knowing what they believe is not a personal attack.
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Nov 23 2012 02:11pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Nov 23 2012 12:02pm)
I've posted a couple of books that drive at similar points without all of the logical inconsistencies, and I've still read a lot more of your book than you have read of either of the books that I posted.  So there's that.

The problem is not being interested in the actual truth.  :( 



When you call people spammers for disagreeing with you, and when you say their philosophies are wrong, when you call other peoples' belief systems "Nonsense beliefs" without even finding out what their beliefs are...  how is that not attacking?  Explain to me how calling someone's deeply held philosophical values "Nonsense beliefs" without actually knowing what they believe is not a personal attack.


Can you stop typing what im thinking? :P
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Nov 23 2012 02:13pm
Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ 23 Nov 2012 21:02)
I've posted a couple of books that drive at similar points without all of the logical inconsistencies, and I've still read a lot more of your book than you have read of either of the books that I posted.  So there's that.

The problem is not being interested in the actual truth.  :( 



When you call people spammers for disagreeing with you, and when you say their philosophies are wrong, when you call other peoples' belief systems "Nonsense beliefs" without even finding out what their beliefs are...  how is that not attacking?  Explain to me how calling someone's deeply held philosophical values "Nonsense beliefs" without actually knowing what they believe is not a personal attack.


Obvious spam is spam (read the original post and your posts).
If you do not agree with original post, you can report it (probably already done I guess).
I do not attack you, I'm pointing out facts.
I do not care about spam, it is serving the truth as free bumps anyway.
If YOU take facts as a personal attack, YOU are to blame for that.

Belief IS non-sense, there is nothing to add.
Knowing is the way.

About the book you post, that was only one book, and not talking about the universal truth of life and death, which is the topic of this thread.
I am still waiting for the 999 better explanations you talked about... But I will still not read it if it is off topic.
You can spam more if you want OR you can post constructive things as I asked you in original post and later.
Now I will stop answer to the free bumps, I am sorry I did, but I have some extra time today.
If you want to discuss with me, just pm me, I will ignore the spam again from now on.
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Nov 23 2012 02:38pm
Quote (Eti_fr @ Nov 23 2012 12:13pm)
Obvious spam is spam (read the original post and your posts).
If you do not agree with original post, you can report it (probably already done I guess).
I do not attack you, I'm pointing out facts.
I do not care about spam, it is serving the truth as free bumps anyway.
If YOU take facts as a personal attack, YOU are to blame for that.

Belief IS non-sense, there is nothing to add.
Knowing is the way.

About the book you post, that was only one book, and not talking about the universal truth of life and death, which is the topic of this thread.
I am still waiting for the 999 better explanations you talked about... But I will still not read it if it is off topic.
You can spam more if you want OR you can post constructive things as I asked you in original post and later.
Now I will stop answer to the free bumps, I am sorry I did, but I have some extra time today.
If you want to discuss with me, just pm me, I will ignore the spam again from now on.


They've all been presented. You just call it off topic.


Knowing is the way. What arrogance. Pretending to know all the answers.
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