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Mar 16 2012 07:10am
Quote (RITZ @ Mar 14 2012 02:25pm)
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Gas under $4 isn't really expensive.
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Mar 16 2012 03:12pm
You think you 33% of you idiots would've learned from Iraq but no you still think there's WMDs everywhere.
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Mar 16 2012 03:22pm
Quote (Amuse @ Mar 16 2012 09:12pm)
You think you 33% of you idiots would've learned from Iraq but no you still think there's WMDs everywhere.


WMDs THERE OUT THERE MAN
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Mar 16 2012 03:24pm
Obama doesn't even need to declare war...NATO could send all our troops with Obama as the Commander in Chief.
If Iran in the future is found out to be building nuclear weapons maybe but not right now.
If we were to start another war it needs to be after Iraq and Afghanistan are completely finished.
We can't afford all of these wars especially with that healthcare bill...
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Mar 16 2012 05:37pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Mar 16 2012 06:58am)
Neither China nor Russia will risk widespread nuclear war on behalf of Iran, that you seem to suggest it makes me believe you're outright delusional.

If the Iranians use the bomb, they will die as a nation. If they threaten the bomb, they'll still die. The bluff (if it is one) will be called.

The present Iran doesn't have a future, it's just a question of when.


I don't think you have the foggiest idea how much hell to pay there would be if we invaded a nuclear country in the post cold war era.
We would be changing the entire dynamic of the game. We'd be talking cold war all over again. If China or Russia doesn't launch on the spot, we'd be looking at a dramatic arms escalation
We'd be living in fear of the first strike every single day again, and we'd probably be right in the near future


Peace is only kept in the world right now because nuclear countries cannot attack each other. MAD has become the de facto law of international relations.
If we totally violate it and start playing gambling with nukes, the other players aren't going to keep playing by the same rules.
It could be something as simple as the DPRK deciding its time to invade the south, because they are no longer safe behind their nukes.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 16 2012 05:39pm
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Mar 16 2012 05:50pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 16 2012 11:37pm)
I don't think you have the foggiest idea how much hell to pay there would be if we invaded a nuclear country in the post cold war era.
We would be changing the entire dynamic of the game. We'd be talking cold war all over again. If China or Russia doesn't launch on the spot, we'd be looking at a dramatic arms escalation
We'd be living in fear of the first strike every single day again, and we'd probably be right in the near future


Peace is only kept in the world right now because nuclear countries cannot attack each other. MAD has become the de facto law of international relations.
If we totally violate it and start playing gambling with nukes, the other players aren't going to keep playing by the same rules.
It could be something as simple as the DPRK deciding its time to invade the south, because they are no longer safe behind their nukes.



your right and its going to get to the point where you die or get nuked anyway so shits gonna hit the fan.
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Mar 16 2012 11:02pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 16 2012 06:37pm)
I don't think you have the foggiest idea how much hell to pay there would be if we invaded a nuclear country in the post cold war era.
We would be changing the entire dynamic of the game. We'd be talking cold war all over again. If China or Russia doesn't launch on the spot, we'd be looking at a dramatic arms escalation
We'd be living in fear of the first strike every single day again, and we'd probably be right in the near future


Peace is only kept in the world right now because nuclear countries cannot attack each other. MAD has become the de facto law of international relations.
If we totally violate it and start playing gambling with nukes, the other players aren't going to keep playing by the same rules.
It could be something as simple as the DPRK deciding its time to invade the south, because they are no longer safe behind their nukes.


You misunderstood me earlier, I was asking how it matters if Israel gets blown up...Israel is the cause of all the problems right? And its made us look like retards for more than half a century, as far as the middle east goes. So why wouldn't we want to provoke Israel just getting knocked off the map? Iran cannot get nukes to us, which is the important part. If they open up on Israel, Israel will level their country just as well. Or we do it for them, after the stain on the US thats caused all the problems in the past couple decades goes away. The reason MAD has no application in this sense is that there is none. Iran CAN NOT get nukes to us. China and Russia can.
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Mar 17 2012 01:31am
Quote (lone500 @ Mar 16 2012 02:22pm)
WMDs THERE OUT THERE MAN


NOT OUT THERE. IN HERE
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Mar 17 2012 01:49am
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 16 2012 03:37pm)
I don't think you have the foggiest idea how much hell to pay there would be if we invaded a nuclear country in the post cold war era.
We would be changing the entire dynamic of the game. We'd be talking cold war all over again. If China or Russia doesn't launch on the spot, we'd be looking at a dramatic arms escalation
We'd be living in fear of the first strike every single day again, and we'd probably be right in the near future


Peace is only kept in the world right now because nuclear countries cannot attack each other. MAD has become the de facto law of international relations.
If we totally violate it and start playing gambling with nukes, the other players aren't going to keep playing by the same rules.
It could be something as simple as the DPRK deciding its time to invade the south, because they are no longer safe behind their nukes.


This is why I feel Iran should have a nuke. Teaches people to chill the fuck out and use diplomacy.
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Mar 17 2012 02:10am
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 16 2012 08:10am)
Gas under $4 isn't really expensive.


Yep a significant portion of the population having to work an 8 hour day just to fill their gas tank isn't expensive at all.

Especially when gas was around $2 or less for most of my lifetime


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