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Mar 13 2012 05:47am
Quote (ZingerSupreme @ Mar 13 2012 11:41am)
Stop playing victim... you are oppressing these people and when they fire at you it is self defense.
This recent round started when you bombed them first.


Bomb them first according to intelligence about that man's plans.
Or the Israeli intelligence is also brainwashing me.

Those refugees you want us to take back, how much time they are refugees ? my math says 64 years and no Arab country gave them citizenship. That's makes me wonder about your love to your fellows refugees.
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Mar 13 2012 05:51am
Quote (ZingerSupreme @ 13 Mar 2012 13:41)
Stop playing victim... you are oppressing these people and when they fire at you it is self defense.
This recent round started when you bombed them first.


We are not oppressing we are reacting to a complex situation you simply don't understand.
Gaza was Egypt problem they simply didn't want to deal with them and left them to us.
Go take your frustration on Egypt, I see the life on the West Bank and they don't anything to do with Gaza either same for the Israelis Arabs they don't want anything with the people in Gaza.
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I am taking about the Palestinian people who today live in Gaza.
Where did they live prior to 1948?
Didn't most of them live in what is now Israel?
I give up discussing with you, since you are not honest.

They lived in Gaza, those who flew went to Lebanon and Jordan some to Sinai.
but defiantly not to Gaza.

You give up the discussion because you simply failed, Gaza WASN'T Israel's PROBLEM.
It was problematic area before and the egyptions knew it and left this 'Hornet's nest' to us.
and now people like you come and ask me to accept them as citizens well... NO!

Aim you frustration to your country who didn't accept them as Citizen's for almost 70 years.
Only Jordan did it and guess what, we don't have problem with them...
Funny how things work right? specially when you are narrow tunneled like yourself.

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Mar 13 2012 05:53am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ Mar 13 2012 01:47pm)
Bomb them first according to intelligence about that man's plans.
Or the Israeli intelligence is also brainwashing me.


Yeah because the Israeli intelligence is very credible and competent :rofl:
The same intelligence that in 2006 made to risking a entire team of special forces to kidnap Hassan Nasrallah, and it turned out it was another guy called Hassan Nasrallah that was a civilian?
Besides, that is not the point. Palestinians have right to fight back like any oppressed people do.

Quote (WhiteSouned @ Mar 13 2012 01:47pm)
Those refugees you want us to take back, how much time they are refugees ? my math says 64 years and no Arab country gave them citizenship. That's makes me wonder about your love to your fellows refugees.


Personal attacks?
Suppose I was American and I made this argument would you ask me also to given citizenship in America?

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Mar 13 2012 06:01am
Quote (Many_Names @ Mar 13 2012 01:51pm)
They lived in Gaza, those who flew went to Lebanon and Jordan some to Sinai.


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The number of Palestinian refugees by country according to UNRWA in January 2010 were as follows:
Jordan 1,983,733
Lebanon 425,640
Syria 472,109
West Bank 778,993
Gaza Strip 1,106,195


Gaza is 1.7 million.
So close to 65% of Gaza population are refugees which came from what is now Israel.
I am sure you knew that already.

If you did't know that already, you lack understanding of the situation. And if you did, you were being dishonest.
Either way I am really done, and no not because I failed but because my interest isn't to spread self serving propaganda.
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Mar 13 2012 06:04am
Quote (ZingerSupreme @ Mar 13 2012 11:53am)
Yeah because the Israeli intelligence is very credible and competent :rofl:
The same intelligence that in 2006 made to risking a entire team of special forces to kidnap Hassan Nasrallah, and it turned out it was another guy called Hassan Nasrallah that was a civilian?
Besides, that is not the point. Palestinians have right to fight back like any oppressed people do.



Personal attacks?
Suppose I was American and I made this argument would you ask me also to given citizenship in America?


Not personal at all.
You keep telling us that the Arab world is advanced and not like it was 60 years ago. Sorry, i cant see it when the contribution to the world is adds up by inventing the suicide bomber, the exploding cars and the kidnapped airplanes.

And every intelligence has its mistakes.

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Mar 13 2012 06:10am
First accept your refugees then talk about me.
We are taking refugees from Sudan, that being killed by your Egyption brothers on the way to freedom
You have massacre going on your eastern naibour yet you come and take your frustration on me.
Get a grip, and help those who really needs help.

The Palestinians are refugee's cause they decided to open war on 1948, a war that almost annhilated all Jews.
We won the war they lost.
This land is ours, those who stayed welcome to stay those who left were 750 thousand now they are above 5 million you really think we gonna accept them all?

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Not personal at all.
You keep telling us that the Arab world is advanced and not like it was 60 years ago. Sorry, i cant see it when the contribution to the world is adds up by inventing the suicide bomber, the exploding cars and the kidnapped airplanes.

And every intelligence have its mistakes.


you forgot the invetion of Kassam and Grad rockets out of tubes

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Mar 13 2012 06:23am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ Mar 13 2012 02:04pm)
You keep telling us that the Arab world is advanced and not like it was 60 years ago. Sorry, i cant see it when the contribution to the world is adds up by inventing the suicide bomber, the exploding cars and the kidnapped airplanes..


Actually the Islamists are on the rise because secular pan Arabism failed to deal with Israel. Now I know you will say, you blame everything on us, blah blah blah. But it is the truth. 60 years ago there was no such thing as militant Islamists so back then you didn't even have the luxury of this excuse.
Another fact: car bombs were introduced to the region by none other than the Zionist gangs before Israeli independence, the same gangs that became the IDF. Funny that?
Another fact: the suicide bomber was not an Arab invention, Japan used kamikaze it in WWII that is only a recent example.
Another fact: the solar cell was invented by a Lebanese when the Israeli gangs were busy burning down Palestinian villages.

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Mar 13 2012 06:25am
Quote (Many_Names @ Mar 13 2012 02:10pm)
First accept your refugees then talk about me.


They are all your refugees.
Take responsibility for your actions and past instead of playing the victim and leaving your entire country and future generations hostage to a fleeting moment in the world balance of powers.

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Mar 13 2012 06:31am
Quote (ZingerSupreme @ Mar 13 2012 12:23pm)
Actually the Islamists are on the rise because secular pan Arabism failed to deal with Israel. Now I know you will say, you blame everything on us, blah blah blah. But it is the truth. 60 years ago there was no such thing as militant Islamists so back then you didn't even have the luxury of this excuse.
Another fact: car bombs were introduced to the region by none other than the Zionist gangs before Israeli independence, the same gangs that became the IDF. Funny that?
Another fact: the suicide bomber was not an Arab invention, Japan used kamikaze it in WWII that is only a recent example.
Another fact: the solar cell was invented by a Lebanese when the Israeli gangs were busy burning down Palestinian villages.


So i guess Muslims never fought to speared their religion. Funny.

And its seems that even tough they didn't invent those things, they make such a good use of them ! And its makes me wonder what did they do all those years besides growing their hate.

All over the world nations fought each other for land and resources. Why it has to be different in this case ? Give them citizenship and maybe just maybe the conflict will be solved.
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Mar 13 2012 06:35am
Quote (WhiteSouned @ Mar 13 2012 02:31pm)
All over the world nations fought each other for land and resources. Why it has to be different in this case ?


It is not different by itself but it happened in a different time. After WWII, the world is supposedly less of a jungle. But it is still a jungle in some places like Israel, and this should be fixed for the good of the human race.
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