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#131
Sep 8 2011 10:07am
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I am not a "defender" of the September 11 attacks, but simply pointing out that if U.S. foreign policy results in massive death and destruction abroad, we cannot feign innocence when some of that destruction is returned. I have never said that people "should" engage in armed attacks on the United States, but that such attacks are a natural and unavoidable consequence of unlawful U.S. policy. As Martin Luther King, quoting Robert F. Kennedy, said, "Those who make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable."

— Ward Churchill , Statement to Rocky Mountain News


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Churchill_September_11_attacks_essay_controversy
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#132
Sep 8 2011 10:19am
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Sep 7 2011 04:00pm)
...I'm really hoping that there are no unpleasnt incidents because of the combination of beer , patriotism and the emotions of football .


When you put it like that opening day is pretty scary this year.
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#133
Sep 8 2011 10:44am
Quote (CPK001 @ Sep 8 2011 11:51am)
So you think that, theoretically if one of his family members were killed during 9/11, he WOULDN'Tmourn the loss because he'd instead be thinking that his own family member that died DESERVEDit. Reason being THEY THEMSELVES were involved in the killing of people in the Mid East? Even though they were more likely inside the tower at the time working or still at School learning?


That is absolutely correct. I'm just saying this based on what he said though.
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#134
Sep 8 2011 02:41pm
Quote (hedonism @ Sep 8 2011 03:44am)
Innocent civilians are not committing war crimes around the world. Anyone who has a quarrel with America does not have it with these innocent men and women. Therefore, to rejoice their deaths is what I would consider "bloodthirsty".

And yes, you are using a "two wrongs make a right" argument. You are bringing up millions of people dying at America's hands before 9/11 as an attempt to justify the murder of thousands of innocent civilians who were not responsible for those things.


im not justifing anything , what happened happened , and it was easily forseeable
if you are an american , that means you are a member of the american community
the american community has killed millions , its an undeniable fact
the american community didnt think that other communites might want to kill some americans back ?
the members of the american community are not in any way responsible for what their own community does ?
wake up

Quote (JEB90 @ Sep 8 2011 04:06am)
Americans are like Nazis? IF al Qaeda did it? We're bloodthirsty? We made the hate happen?

I guess as these are the kinds of people you associate with, it explains a lot of your posts.


Quote (Santara @ Sep 8 2011 04:44am)
I guess I can say I'm not surprised you hang with such a shitty crowd. Birds of a feather...


keep telling yourself that
i have talked to literally tens of thousands of people since then
uni students , professionals , small business owners , average workers , etc
clearly you would be quite surprised at what their opinions are

Quote (Zurich @ Sep 9 2011 04:07am)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ward_Churchill_September_11_attacks_essay_controversy


this is self evident to literally billions
but apparantly not to most americans .....
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#135
Sep 8 2011 04:04pm
Quote (Matao @ Sep 8 2011 02:41pm)
im not justifing anything , what happened happened , and it was easily forseeable
if you are an american , that means you are a member of the american community
the american community has killed millions , its an undeniable fact
the american community didnt think that other communites might want to kill some americans back ?
the members of the american community are not in any way responsible for what their own community does ?
wake up





keep telling yourself that
i have talked to literally tens of thousands of people since then
uni students , professionals , small business owners , average workers , etc
clearly you would be quite surprised at what their opinions are



this is self evident to literally billions
but apparantly not to most americans .....



Apparently you literally don't know what "literally" means.

Just for shits and giggles, let's do some fun math.

1) days since 9/11/2001: 3652 (counting up for your benefit)
2) "tens of thousands of people" let's assume the minimum for you at 20,000
3) 20,000/3652=5.48 different people you have talked to about 9/11 EACH AND EVERY DAY SINCE=total bullshit
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#136
Sep 8 2011 04:12pm
I was in second grade, they did not tell us anything, at all, the 7th and 8th graders on the bus were all talking about it though.
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Sep 8 2011 04:19pm
Quote (JEB90 @ Sep 9 2011 10:04am)
Apparently you literally don't know what "literally" means.

Just for shits and giggles, let's do some fun math.

1) days since 9/11/2001: 3652 (counting up for your benefit)
2) "tens of thousands of people" let's assume the minimum for you at 20,000
3) 20,000/3652=5.48 different people you have talked to about 9/11 EACH AND EVERY DAY SINCE=total bullshit


i spent years as a travelling salesman , travelling all around new zealand
i talked to far more than 5 a day about it
" tens of thousands " may be a slight exageration , but not by much
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#138
Sep 8 2011 04:24pm
Quote (Matao @ Sep 8 2011 04:19pm)
i spent years as a travelling salesman , travelling all around new zealand
i talked to far more than 5 a day about it
" tens of thousands " may be a slight exageration , but not by much


stop embarrassing yourself, please
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#139
Sep 8 2011 04:25pm
Quote (Matao @ Sep 8 2011 06:19pm)
i spent years as a travelling salesman , travelling all around new zealand
i talked to far more than 5 a day about it
" tens of thousands " may be a slight exageration , but not by much


" Hello there madam , my name is Matao and I'd like to show you this wonderful new vacume cleaner and discuss 9/11 and American geo-politics . May I come in because I have 4 more people to do this with today " :rofl:
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#140
Sep 8 2011 04:29pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Sep 8 2011 04:25pm)
" Hello there madam , my name is Matao and I'd like to show you this wonderful new vacume cleaner and discuss 9/11 and American geo-politics . May I come in because I have 4 more people to do this with today "  :rofl:


Anybody else getting visions of Exidor here?

Oh--and don't forget the .48...

This post was edited by JEB90 on Sep 8 2011 04:30pm
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