Aegean Macedonians speak a Slavic language, this would imply that they belong to the Slavic ethnic group, a group for which there is already a nation-state.

Furthermore, the term "Aegean Macedonia" is used by the Slavic Macedonians to refer to the irredentist claims certain Macedonians (of the Slavic state) make upon Greece. While there are ethnic Slavic Macedonians living in Aegean Macedonia, and discrimination against them does exist, they are not the majority and Slavic support for unification into a Greater Macedonia is grossly undersupported.

To dispel confusion, the Aegean Macedonians are Slavic in ethnicity, they speak a Slavic language and the state representing their ethnicity is the FYROM. They are not the majority in Aegean Macedonia, the majority does not support unification with the FYROM or secession to form their own independent state.

When this minority was crushed during the Civil War, they were in support of a separate Slavic state for Macedonians, one that now exists.

I disagree with absolutely nothing in this post and feel like the conversation with Inviction has warped what I'm trying to say, which is pretty much this. I feel that Aegean Macedonia as a term that attempts to make it look as though they should be merged with the FYROM is ridiculous, but that Aegean Macedonians are completely fucked over by the Greeks and that it's important to recognize that. A large part of that fucking over stems from their identification with Communist factions due to the fact that the communists were willing to give them a state when none existed.

thats to bad, we have let in 30 million illegal aliens.. i feel bad for them but enough is enough..

while the ancient macedonians are related to the greek, the final judgement on the specific form of that relationship is still open:
http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/LX/AncientMacedonianLanguage.html

you are tottaly idiot, what are you talking about ^^ ?

Aegean macedonians are Greeks and speak the Greek language...This fyrom crap its slavic race is a mix from Albanians/bulgarians and i dont know what other shit anyway, for sure they CANNOT be called macedonians.

Bogie160, you are a damn retard wich supports his low knowledge so hard... you really dont have a clue...

This post was edited by eGc-CrusadeR on May 16 2010 02:31am

how can people with moderate to non knowledge about history try and argue about Makedonia???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergina_Sun

end of story people....either read books and then comment or dont comment at all

This post was edited by Sparda13 on May 16 2010 04:11am

and what history did they teach you in school? definitely slanted (like it is done in every country)
let us all not forget that the greeks came as invaders from the east to the area they currently reside in
and let us all not forget that in ancient times the greeks considered the macedonians barbarian cousins
the ancient kingdom of macedonia had no part in the confederation of the greek city states until around the time of philip ii
and who is not to say that the ancient macedonians were potetntially remnants of the population prior to the greek invasion?
there are a lot of unclear elements in the pre-history of the region
but i am sure they teach you that in greek schools

haha yes, it's obvious that they do.



"Aegean Macedonian" is the widely accepted term for that part of Macedonia's population that Greece is trying its best to expel or culturally destroy. And hey, bang-up job, you've managed to squeeze them out quite nicely. Of the ∼200k people who still live there and have Aegean Macedonian traits are around 200k, but only about a tenth of those have any sort of national consciousness. Just a couple more generations and you should have managed to completely squeeze them out.



From the wiki: "Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group."

The people aren't being targeted, but the ethnic group will be all but destroyed through a lack of contact with their roots. I suppose I'll go with cultural suppression to keep from seeming dramatic, though.

And I linked to the HRW thing earlier, lemme find it: http://www.historyofmacedonia.org/MacedonianMinorities/HumanRightsWatch.html

There's a full-blown booklet that they released that you might be able to find in paper form in your local library or something - I found mine in my school's library when I wrote that paper in post 77.

of course what u say is true....but there clearly is no relation to slavic origin people....since they came near that regions much later than the time of phillip ii
so why argue about stuff that are so apparent?