Quote (tric-isHUGE @ Dec 21 2009 06:47am)

You know what the best part of the gay marriage debate is? 

It's the legal and constitutional arguments the social conservatives pull out of their ass to gain some 'legitimacy'.  Especially when in all other aspects, they don't seem to give two shits, or you see them bending over backwards to have the constitution fit their needs.

It's fucking pathetic, and a complete non-issue.  It's nothing more than a distraction from more important issues.  Am I the only other person who feels that the gay marriage debate is freaking retarded?  Can we move on?  Can we grow up? The sooner the right can cede all these fucking no-brainer social issues the sooner we can stop the left from raping us fiscally.  And really, at the end of the day, you and society are so much worse off because you have to pay more taxes for welfare programs than because your neighbors like poking each other in the poop-schute.

Quote (bogie160 @ Dec 22 2009 02:48pm)

The sooner libertarians stop being douchebags and support the right on social issues, the sooner we can stop the left raping us fiscally.

Oh shit.

Quote (deadheadbob @ Dec 22 2009 05:10pm)

This argument is so fucking stupid. It's as simple as this. Government shouldn't force the Church to allow gay marriage but a gay couple should be able to be recognized by the state ie. by a judge, ship captain, etc. There are benefits from the state that you get when you're married regardless of who married you and so it is unconstitutional for them not to be able to receive those benefits because of sexual orientation.

Edit: What people fail to recognize is that marriage is not strictly a religious thing anymore and there for the nonreligious part of it should be controlled by the state.

Quote (axshen @ Dec 22 2009 03:23pm)

Why not remove marriage from being a state-controlled thing completely?  It'd be much simpler to just end any benefits for marriage or any form of it.