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Nov 23 2009 07:14pm
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I would never use "point" in a literal sense when on this subject. Genesis is always open to interpretation. When I say point I do not mean fact.


Ah.

Seems clearer, many thanks.

I may misinterpret things on a regular basis, but I always seek clarity in case I fucked up my interpretation. :P

Anyway, I'm right that there are other interpretations and you're wrong, neener neener.
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Oh ok so you are a creationist who believes in evolution? Makes sense.

And actually, giving you examples of wars shows that blind faith in the hands of an extremist is a powerful weapon.


Please, show me an excerpt in the Bible that says that evolution doesn't occur. You and I both know that there isn't one.

And @ bold: you can replace these words with seemingly anything and still have a logical sentence. I'm glad that you have now singled out extremists instead of the entire religious population - I foresee you slowly altering you original stance in an attempt to get out of the hole you have dug. Carry on.
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Please, show me an excerpt in the Bible that says that evolution doesn't occur.  You and I both know that there isn't one.

And @ bold:  you can replace these words with seemingly anything and still have a logical sentence.  I'm glad that you have now singled out extremists instead of the entire religious population - I foresee you slowly altering you original stance in an attempt to get out of the hole you have dug.  Carry on.


I haven't dug a hole. You are jump to conclusions far too quickly to have a decent argument with.

Genesis contradicts the theory of evolution.
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I haven't dug a hole. You are jump to conclusions far too quickly to have a decent argument with.

Genesis contradicts the theory of evolution.


Unless, of course, it's a metaphor where "Day" means "Aeon."
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I haven't dug a hole. You are jump to conclusions far too quickly to have a decent argument with.

Genesis contradicts the theory of evolution.


Jump to conclusions? I'm fairly sure that you have correlated religion to war. I don't see how I'm jumping to conclusions.

And, once again, please provide evidence that shows that Genesis doesn't support the idea of evolution.
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Quote (AiNedeSpelCzech @ Nov 24 2009 11:52am)
Unless, of course, it's a metaphor where "Day" means "Aeon."


"And god said "let us make man in our image, after our likeness : and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth"

Hardly sounds like natural selection to me. Intelligent Design is contradictory to the theory of evolution. It is pretty simple.
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Jump to conclusions?  I'm fairly sure that you have correlated religion to war.  I don't see how I'm jumping to conclusions.


"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me" (Luke 19:27).
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"And god said "let us make man in our image, after our likeness : and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth"

Hardly sounds like natural selection to me. Intelligent Design is contradictory to the theory of evolution. It is pretty simple.


You just quoted something that had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of anything other than man, and even then it doesn't say anything about time frames. A waved wand or a multi-billion year evolutionary process are both perfectly valid interpretations.

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"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me" (Luke 19:27).


cool ending of a parable, bro.

This post was edited by AiNedeSpelCzech on Nov 23 2009 08:12pm
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You just quoted something that had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of anything other than man, and even then it doesn't say anything about time frames.  A waved wand or a multi-billion year evolutionary process are both perfectly valid interpretations.


Evolution is the theory that small, random mutations in the genes take place upon reproduction. Natural Selection weeds out the weak, and progressively a better species comes along.
Intelligent Design is the theory that some organisms are designed / created by a being of higher intelligence than that of the human.

Completely contradictory. You can't say that something spawned from a random mutation in a gene and then say that someone designed that being.
The bible says God designed us in his image.
Evolution says we are the result of billions of years of RANDOM mutations.


"In science it often happens that scientists say, "You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken," and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion."
Sagan.

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Nov 23 2009 08:18pm
Quote (pissed247 @ Nov 23 2009 08:07pm)
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me" (Luke 19:27).


What does this have to do with war? How does this relate Christianity as a religion to war? Do you even know what the context of this passage is referring to? Keep googling scripture, I find it quite funny.
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