You just said you have an immune system for free and should not wear masks because it is not natural, but apparently are vaccinated and wear glasses? Come on man even you can see the irony.

I will from now on ignore every and all claims not supported by a source. You want to talk about vaccine side effects from COVID? Sure, give me some numbers. As stated at least four times by now I am critical of the administration of the vaccine especially for young people.

I also think that the motives behind a rushed vaccine were fear of COVID and the need to reopen the world, not malice. You seem to think otherwise, but I am not exactly sure why. Ah and naturally greed from the pharma industry but that goes without saying

This post was edited by SkySwallower on Oct 31 2024 09:49am

You have not provided a single source for anything you are saying. By the way that makes you seem pretentious as you also admitted you are a "doctoral statistician" as if that makes you some "great expert" on either Virology or Atmospheric sciences. It does not.

Covid-19 was being developed in a lab in Chapel Hill, North Carolina overseen by Dr. Fauci in 2011. Because it was so controversial it was moved to Wuhan, China(Wuhan Institute of Virology). This is now well known and disproves the whole notion a "bat fucked a rat in a dirty fish market and created Covid-19".

It's why Dr. Fauci said, "The Trump Administration will face an infectious disease outbreak like nothing ever before seen". How did he know that in 2016? Because he'd been working on it for the last 5 years.

This is where the Chinese government and US government played the blame game with each other even though both were the sole reasons for the development of Covid-19.

They lied to the public about the origins of Covid-19 to induce fear into the public world-wide.

Imagine they said, "We(US+China) were working in a weapons grade bio-lab together and something went wrong and we accidentally released Covid-19 into the public. Good news is we were working on it since 2011 together so we should have a vaccine for everybody really soon!"

There would have been next to ZERO panic because the public would know the government made a mistake and will fix it. Had they also admitted this every other country on Earth and it's citizens would have a RIGHT to sue China/US for being negligent of what they were working on.

&&& just so everyone knows(assuming you all do) our government with the Chinese government has created strains of viruses that have much higher rates of fatality so it's not like "Covid-19" was the dangerous one it was one of the few they could control and test. &&& they did.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Oct 31 2024 09:56am

I will bite: What claim of mine do you not believe and want a source for? I will happily provide one.

"Covid-19 was being developed in a lab in Chapel Hill, North Carolina overseen by Dr. Fauci in 2011" Is that actually true? I honestly don't know, but either you can educate me with a source or do some critical thinking of "jumping to conclusions" just because they sound smart to you - that seems like a win win to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_lab_leak_theory if somebody else is interested, there are multiple articles cited regarding the topic. The lab theory in total appears to be unlikely, but not impossible - the best explanation seems to still be zoonosis from bats.

This post was edited by SkySwallower on Oct 31 2024 10:13am

I specifically invested in Pfizer stock when I found out my mother was going to be forced/mandated to take it PLUS the first booster. My mom never took the booster because the original Phizer vaccine made her sick(Most intinuated virus inoculations do) She would get sick from the "flu shot" every year so of course we told her to hold off on that initial vaccine BATCH because it was the "least tested" and would probably make her sick just like the "flu shot".

I then heard Albert Borila(CEO of Phizer at the time) go on live tv and say something along the lines of, "There will be new Covid strains every year and so we will need to continue making Covid vaccines into perpetuity". He also said the governments worldwide would make it similar to the annual flu shot. They did.

I made a good chunk of money with that little bit of foreknowledge. Imagine people like Bill Gates, Fauci, and members of our own government who KNEW (Phizer/Moderna/J&J/Biontech/etc.) were going to get these "Trillion-dollar" "DEALS" to be the official distrubters of the Covid vaccine in the US.

Even more sick is the FACT that "Moderna/Biontech" had been working on a "Covid vaccine" for a decade prior(look at the patents) and so all the people with insider knowledge made MILLIONS while the people around me were locked down and told they were non-essential. While their lives and livlihoods were ruined.

Ya I get pissed off when my own government yet again is responsible for introducing another "chemical" into it's FDA approved 10,000 chemicals. We all get sick and they get rich because they lied to everyone and made people believe their scam. Not hard to see now that the "data they hid" is now "public" for everyone and anyone. Notice how people act like Covid doesn't exist anymore? Because it wasn't any more lethal then the common cold/flu.

edit: You believing in the zoonosis bat theory is all I need to know about your knowledge of the origins of Covid. Do you not see causal reality? Can you not see how both governments just so happened to be doing research at a lab in Wuhan, China? The two are inseparable and no coincidence. Causal reality cannot be disproven with shit-can science or blatant lies. The reason the world got sick was because the top US/Chinese scientist were working on "experiments" and shit wen't wrong and they knew there was a chance it could go wrong. This makes them guilty for the origins yet they avoided all accountability. Explain that?

https://slguardian.org/dutch-court-orders-bill-gates-to-face-trial-over-covid-19-vaccine-injuries/
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/national/article/2001505363/billionaire-bill-gates-on-trial-over-covid-19-vaccines-safety

^ news here

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Oct 31 2024 10:29am

100% a lot of people, especially in your congress made out like bandits because of COVID. Opportunism and greed are not unexpected, are they?

I will keep pointing out that COVID was more contagious than the flu and killed more people than the flu in recent years. Hopefully it will be less lethal in the future, that would be good for everyone I think.

"edit: You believing in the zoonosis bat theory is all I need to know about your knowledge of the origins of Covid. Do you not see causal reality? Can you not see how both governments just so happened to be doing research at a lab in Wuhan, China? The two are inseparable and no coincidence. Causal reality cannot be disproven with shit-can science or blatant lies."

It is dangerous to be sure of something that you have no evidence for, it often times makes you look like an idiot. Coincidences exist, the lab in Wuhan is not the only one in China doing research on COVID. I would still not be super surprised if it turned out to be a leak from a lab some time from now. I would be extremely surprised if it turns out it was leaked on purpose, especially close to a research lab - that would be quite idiotic, wouldn't it.

This post was edited by SkySwallower on Oct 31 2024 10:41am

Republicans are like cowboys only good indian is a dead one type of thinking ... Red white and blue Patriots ...Democrats are like passivist occultist willing to follow lies to the bitter end ..trickle-down economics Ronald Regan..dribble down is chin Bidden occultist lies We will stop fracking..More fracking then Trump lol

This post was edited by doomchaser on Oct 31 2024 10:50am

So do you not see the conflict of interest?

Do you not see how they were "intentionally dishonest" from the get-go when they had EXPERT level knowledge of Covid itself.

What would you do if you accidentally released a virus made in a lab onto the public? You would do exactly what we saw during the "Covid years". Blame China. Blame bats. Blame anything but YOURSELF.

If on day ONE they admitted there was a "weapons grade bio-lab" right near where they were "studying bats" people immediately would've blamed China and then China would've said, "Wait a minute you guys couldn't do that research in your country and you brought it here how is that "our" fault".

Then you see it extrapolated into what we all know as Covid.

I do put causal blame where it is 100% necessary. I believe both parties(China/US) are equally responsible yet both managed to get rich and avoid accountability. Now that people are suing some of these Pharma companies lawyers and litigation teams are seeing that they were working on "covid vaccines" for a decade prior or MORE. So yes when you go to a country and say take this it's safe and effective and you get DAMAGED and you have the ability to sue...you do. People in America can't sue because they knowingly took a "recommended vaccine" that they technically didn't have to. It's why now our government here says, "We never forced anyone to take the vaccine" when they basically used every other means necessary to force you into complying. It violates the Nuremberg code but let's not go down that road either.

Depends? I think some countries are willing to take blame for things that went wrong, I also think China is not one of them. As I said, would not be terribly surprised if that was a fuck up, would also be even less surprised if it was just a coincidence. I would be very surprised if it was leaked on purpose.

The people who got rich are not necessarily the people who would be responsible if it was a lab leak (actually not at all?), so that seems like a weird take to me. I assume the chinese government would swiftly execute you if they found out that you fucked up and leaked COVID and then tried to get rich from it, but I obviously can't prove that.

why do conservatives love this guy so much???

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/elon-musk-keeps-offering-friends-and-acquaintances-his-sperm-report

China refuses to be blamed because at the core of "causal reality" is "Chapel Hill, North Carolina research" being moved to "Wuhan Institute of Virology". The US government is more responsible then China. Let's say it was the "Berlin Institute of Virology" and not Wuhan. We would be blaming Germany and not China but the US would be more responsible in both. Think of this logically they were doing what was already considered controversial research in the US and went to China BECAUSE they could do even more "questionable research" there.

The people who got the "richest" were people like Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci who literally OWNED shares of Moderna/Biontech prior to them getting the "deal". The reason why I keep mentioning these two is because they were researching "Covid" for a DECADE + and so their "data" helped the bigger Pharma companies "catch up" and it's why those companies shares went up 10 fold 100 fold. If I knew that Biontech/Modern were working on Covid vaccines 10 years prior to "Covid itself" I would've put my entire net worth into biontech and became a 100+ millionaire. Do you know how many scientist and government officials had knowledge of this? TONS and they all did what any rational person with "inside information" does. Trade on it knowing you can't lose. Bill Gates and Fauci(as examples) new Covid vaccine research was happpening and which companies were "ahead" and they bet the house on them being given "credit" for coming up with the "Covid vaccine". People like me buying into Phizer or J&J because they are the bell-weathers in big pharma was almost common sense during Covid. People like Bill Gates and Fauci knowing the companies/research groups already working on "Covid/Covid vaccines" is the ultimate insider trading and its why people question the whole "lab leak theory" in the first place. Because it is the most logical.