You have literally always had to guess somebody's gender. You have not spent your entire life going around doing genital inspections.



So if somebody at work intentionally calls you a man, tells everybody you are a man, complains to HR when you go into the women's bathroom, that's not harassment? Just their freedom to do so?

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Dec 22 2023 06:52pm

What I meant is that misgendering and transsexuality are recent developments. For the worse, I should add.

Homosexuality is a sin & isn’t something one should be proud of. I don’t hate these people or wish any Ill will towards them, in fact I hope they seek out help. Like republicans have being saying for a decade+ now, it is indeed a slippery slope. First the left wanted to normalize homosexuality. Then men started pretending to be women & women are pretending to be men. Now these same deranged lunatics wants to “transition” children & want other people to accept this as a norm. When did the left before so unhinged ?

Let's not talk about trans people's bathroom usage rights or this thread would swell to 1000 pages, lol.

Anyway, I see your point. From the trans woman's and the HR's point of view, I do appear like I am harassing this coworker. But from my perspective, I am not. I don't think I am harassing anybody by calling a man, a man. So what it boils down to is this: I think trans women aren't women, but HR think they are. And neither of us can prove the other wrong.

You appear like you're harassing because you ARE harassing them. Again, you do not know they are a man. You do not have their medical records nor do you know what their genitals look like. It is not on the other person to prove you wrong. You are the one harassing them.



Neither of those are recent. They were threatened with death or being put in a mental asylum in the past. The first book burning Nazis did was literally a gender studies institute.

Not calling you a Nazi here, but I will point out, when you say things like "society is worse because trans people are now a thing", you are literally aligning yourself directly with the cultural aims of the actual German Nazis.

Then prove I am harassing them.


I worship the Nazis,

This post was edited by JessiWan on Dec 22 2023 06:59pm

Our society is worse that somebody can say that and not be immediately threatened with a bullet to the head. We've really gone down hill as a society.

What definiton of harassment would you like to use?

Google: aggressive pressure or intimidation.

Yep, you are definitely being aggressive and intimidating them by constantly going to HR and talking about their gender.

cornell law: Harassment refers to words or behavior that threatens, intimidates, or demeans a person.

Yep, definitely demeaning that you won't stop calling them the wrong gender.

Merriam Webster: to create an unpleasant or hostile situation for especially by uninvited and unwelcome verbal or physical conduct

You are definitely creating an unpleasant or hostile situation with your verbal conduct.


There is no definition of harassment where you wouldn't be clearly harassing them.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Dec 22 2023 07:02pm

The HR is also being aggressive and intimidating me.

Facts

Its almost like there's a reason this insanity is shunned

Telling you to stop harassing a co worker is not intimidating or harassment.

Try again snowflake.