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Sep 3 2023 11:43am
Quote (SBD @ Sep 3 2023 10:39am)
Well if a racist idiot gets offended by me in the internet I can't say I'll lose sleep over such things.


Lmao, your offended.
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#132
Sep 3 2023 11:45am
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The decision of a court can be wrong. So I wouldn't rely on it like it's the last word.

And it does matter what the McMichaels thought at the time. If they could successfully prove that they really thought Arbery was a thief, then this would clear them of the murder charge. They would still be in jail, but for lesser charges.


the 2nd amendment does not give you the right to kill someone, regardless of whether or not they are a thief
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Sep 3 2023 11:48am
Quote (gnarjay @ Sep 3 2023 10:45am)
the 2nd amendment does not give you the right to kill someone, regardless of whether or not they are a thief



I didn't say you could kill someone just because you thought they were a thief. However, if you can prove that you genuinely thought they were a thief, then what you did would be a citizen's arrest, not murder. And you would still go to jail because you did kill someone, however what you did would not amount to murder.

The matter at hand is not whether the McMichaels killed someone. It's whether they had the intention to murder when they killed Arbery.

This post was edited by JessiWan on Sep 3 2023 11:52am
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Sep 3 2023 11:51am
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 3 2023 10:48am)
I didn't say you could kill someone just because you thought they were a thief. However, if you can prove that you genuinely thought they were a thief, then what you did would be a citizen's arrest, not murder. And you would still go to jail because you did kill someone, however what you did would not amount to murder.


if Arbery were still alive, then we could talk about a citizens arrest. unfortunately he's not alive so we're talking about murder
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Sep 3 2023 11:53am
Quote (gnarjay @ Sep 3 2023 10:51am)
if Arbery were still alive, then we could talk about a citizens arrest. unfortunately he's not alive so we're talking about murder


Just because Arbery is dead, it does not mean a murder took place. It could just be a homicide or a manslaughter.

The matter at hand is not whether the McMichaels killed Arbery. It's whether they had the intention to murder when they killed Arbery.
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#136
Sep 3 2023 11:53am
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 3 2023 10:48am)
I didn't say you could kill someone just because you thought they were a thief. However, if you can prove that you genuinely thought they were a thief, then what you did would be a citizen's arrest, not murder. And you would still go to jail because you did kill someone, however what you did would not amount to murder.

The matter at hand is not whether the McMichaels killed someone. It's whether they had the intention to murder when they killed Arbery.


once you kill someone in this country, its really not up to you to determine what you were thinking at the time or whether or not it was justified. its arbitrated by a judge and a jury
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Sep 3 2023 11:58am
Quote (gnarjay @ Sep 3 2023 10:53am)
once you kill someone in this country, its really not up to you to determine what you were thinking at the time or whether or not it was justified. its arbitrated by a judge and a jury


They take into account the motivation at the time of killing to determine whether it was murder or just manslaughter.



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#138
Sep 3 2023 12:00pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 3 2023 10:58am)
They take into account the motivation at the time of killing to determine whether it was murder or just manslaughter.


youre exactly right, in this case the evidence showed that it was murder. pretty simple to understand eh? seems like you understand the process but youre just not satisfied with the outcome
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#139
Sep 3 2023 12:03pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 3 2023 10:53am)
Just because Arbery is dead, it does not mean a murder took place. It could just be a homicide or a manslaughter.

The matter at hand is not whether the McMichaels killed Arbery. It's whether they had the intention to murder when they killed Arbery.


its funny you don't have enough filter to stop staying stupid stuff you take Yeehaws internal thoughts and type them out..
the shit is pretty comical.
the oppressed by the law people crying
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Sep 3 2023 12:04pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Sep 3 2023 11:00am)
youre exactly right, in this case the evidence showed that it was murder. pretty simple to understand eh? seems like you understand the process but youre just not satisfied with the outcome


There is no evidence that can show someone's state of mind, or whether they had the intention to murder. We can only infer that, and in this case, the jury inferred wrong. They just wanted the McMichaels to go to jail for a really long time because all they could see is that some white men killed a black man.

And I am indeed unsatisfied with the outcome, because nobody has proven definitively that the McMichaels truly did have the intention to murder Arbery. Yes, Arbery is dead. However that doesn't mean a murder has taken place.

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