Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 2 Apr 2023 20:06)
you are trying so hard fender and you are still neither clever nor funny :rofl:
i said multiple times that one man alone pulled the trigger and he bears 100% of the responsibility for doing so
does he deserve 100% of the blame? in my opinion no, thats my main point
whats the purpose here sweetheart? trying to create another argument with things i have never said?
but go on, its actually kinda amusing right now
so if we agree that vladimir pootin started the war, and that it's russian troops who are killing ukrainian civilians by the tens of thousands, then why are you so eager to blame NATO / the west / zelensky all the time?
why are you so hostile towards people who sympathise with those that are being killed, whose country is being destroyed by russia?
do you just genuinely not realise how you come across? how the vast majority of your posts here pushes pro kremlin narratives, trying to downplay russia's actions with silly bothsidesisms?
when i point out that none of them justify this war you clutch your pearls and cry "i never said that" - but in reality those things are all you ever post here. what distinguishes you from any other bot from a russian troll farm? serious question.
maybe reflect on that if you can, and stop making excuses for war mongers and murderers of women and children.
Quote (Djunior @ 2 Apr 2023 20:05)
1) You don't understand the difference between the situation in Ukraine and the situation in Finland
2) You try to convince me there's a Russian naval base in Finland, posting a source where I read it's a Finnish base and I know for sure Russia is not claiming it (we would be bombarded with headlines and there are none)
You're shit posting at this point. Go outside and get some fresh air and stop watching MSM, they're "progressive" government tools and try to brainwash the people so they all rally behind their cause (Russia bad).
FACTS
2008 NATO summit followed by Euromaidan and then Crimea takeover. That is the correct order of events and nothing you say changes that.
NATO has NOT recognized Crimea to be Russian, if Ukraine becomes a NATO member it means a huge problem because now NATO should get involved to restore the status of Crimea
I just love your ignorance, your complete and total failure of understanding this rather simple situation and your terrible reading comprehension. SMH
keep corn-cobbing, kremlin bot.
NATO doesn't have to "recognise" crimea to be russian (it is not, in case you missed it: it's illegally occupied ukrainian territory) in order for russia to have de facto control over sevastopol naval base - which is a FACT.
as a matter of fact, this territorial dispute is the main reason it was literally IMPOSSIBLE for ukraine to even become a NATO member in '22 - further debunking the whole rest of your "argument".
again, i just love how you keep inadvertently debunking yourself - but you're not smart enough to realise it, lol.