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Apr 2 2023 12:35pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 2 Apr 2023 20:06)
you are trying so hard fender and you are still neither clever nor funny :rofl:

i said multiple times that one man alone pulled the trigger and he bears 100% of the responsibility for doing so

does he deserve 100% of the blame? in my opinion no, thats my main point

whats the purpose here sweetheart? trying to create another argument with things i have never said?

but go on, its actually kinda amusing right now


so if we agree that vladimir pootin started the war, and that it's russian troops who are killing ukrainian civilians by the tens of thousands, then why are you so eager to blame NATO / the west / zelensky all the time?
why are you so hostile towards people who sympathise with those that are being killed, whose country is being destroyed by russia?

do you just genuinely not realise how you come across? how the vast majority of your posts here pushes pro kremlin narratives, trying to downplay russia's actions with silly bothsidesisms?
when i point out that none of them justify this war you clutch your pearls and cry "i never said that" - but in reality those things are all you ever post here. what distinguishes you from any other bot from a russian troll farm? serious question.

maybe reflect on that if you can, and stop making excuses for war mongers and murderers of women and children.


Quote (Djunior @ 2 Apr 2023 20:05)
1) You don't understand the difference between the situation in Ukraine and the situation in Finland
2) You try to convince me there's a Russian naval base in Finland, posting a source where I read it's a Finnish base and I know for sure Russia is not claiming it (we would be bombarded with headlines and there are none)

You're shit posting at this point. Go outside and get some fresh air and stop watching MSM, they're "progressive" government tools and try to brainwash the people so they all rally behind their cause (Russia bad).




FACTS

2008 NATO summit followed by Euromaidan and then Crimea takeover. That is the correct order of events and nothing you say changes that.

NATO has NOT recognized Crimea to be Russian, if Ukraine becomes a NATO member it means a huge problem because now NATO should get involved to restore the status of Crimea

I just love your ignorance, your complete and total failure of understanding this rather simple situation and your terrible reading comprehension. SMH


keep corn-cobbing, kremlin bot.

NATO doesn't have to "recognise" crimea to be russian (it is not, in case you missed it: it's illegally occupied ukrainian territory) in order for russia to have de facto control over sevastopol naval base - which is a FACT.
as a matter of fact, this territorial dispute is the main reason it was literally IMPOSSIBLE for ukraine to even become a NATO member in '22 - further debunking the whole rest of your "argument".

again, i just love how you keep inadvertently debunking yourself - but you're not smart enough to realise it, lol.
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Apr 2 2023 12:39pm
Quote (fender @ Apr 2 2023 08:35pm)

keep corn-cobbing, kremlin bot.

NATO doesn't have to "recognise" crimea to be russian (it is not, in case you missed it: it's illegally occupied ukrainian territory) in order for russia to have de facto control over sevastopol naval base - which is a FACT.
as a matter of fact, this territorial dispute is the main reason it was literally IMPOSSIBLE for ukraine to even become a NATO member in '22 - further debunking the whole rest of your "argument".

again, i just love how you keep inadvertently debunking yourself - but you're not smart enough to realise it, lol.


I completely wiped the floor with you, as per usual. Sucks when factual information proves you wrong huh.

The question of Crimea takeover being illegal or not doesn't change the order of events and the problem for Russia if Ukraine would become a NATO member.

Keep droning, drone
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Apr 2 2023 12:41pm
Quote (Djunior @ 2 Apr 2023 20:33)
What's that for trash reply, what does that even mean?

You have no idea that Wagner group consists of hired mercenaries, many of them prison inmates that were serving long sentences and are covered in all kinds of prison tattoos.

You have no idea what you're talking about, again and again and again. Your only reply is to shit post as per usual.

SMH


Various elements of Wagner have been linked to neo-Nazism and far-right extremism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group

Sounds like you owned yourself #54984329425761254
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Apr 2 2023 12:46pm
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Various elements of Wagner have been linked to neo-Nazism and far-right extremism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group

Sounds like you owned yourself #54984329425761254


Check for neo-nazi gangs in the US prison system, imagine they would be recruited by Blackwater (for comparison's sake).

Would that mean the US army are a bunch of neo-nazis? Obviously NOT

I don't know what it is with you but you're incapable of understanding basic things, git gud for fuck's sake

This post was edited by Djunior on Apr 2 2023 12:46pm
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Apr 2 2023 12:47pm
Quote (Djunior @ 2 Apr 2023 20:39)
I completely wiped the floor with you, as per usual. Sucks when factual information proves you wrong huh.

The question of Crimea takeover being illegal or not doesn't change the order of events and the problem for Russia if Ukraine would become a NATO member.

Keep droning, drone


i just love how you're not even smart enough to realise that it completely debunked both your "russia needs control over sevastopol naval base" as well your "ukrainian NATO membership was imminent" talking points, lel.

malfunctioning kremlin bot on suicide watch - corn-cobbing reaches critical level. xD
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Apr 2 2023 12:51pm
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i just love how you're not even smart enough to realise that it completely debunked both your "russia needs control over sevastopol naval base" as well your "ukrainian NATO membership was imminent" talking points, lel.

malfunctioning kremlin bot on suicide watch - corn-cobbing reaches critical level. xD


Ukrainian NATO membership imminent or not has completely nothing to do with the fact that future NATO membership was promised.

And it's not like there were no previous rounds of NATO expansion, in fact there were several.

Do I need to posts that shit again??? Work on your reading comprehension pls because you're embarrassing yourself so badly it's getting painful to watch
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Apr 2 2023 12:52pm
Quote (Djunior @ 2 Apr 2023 20:46)
Check for neo-nazi gangs in the US prison system, imagine they would be recruited by Blackwater (for comparison's sake).

Would that mean the US army are a bunch of nea-nazis? Obviously NOT

I don't know what it is with you but you're incapable of understanding basic things, git gud for fuck's sake


Oh but Wagner group has link with Nazis and Far right without involving the prisonner campaign they did in Ukraine.

The Wagner Group is named after the 19th century German composer Richard Wagner, whose music Adolf Hitler adored. The group's leader, Dmitry Utkin, reportedly wears Nazi tattoos, including a swastika, a Nazi eagle and SS lightning bolts. Wagner mercenaries are reported to have left behind neo-Nazi propaganda in the war zones where they've fought, including graffiti with hate symbols

But maybe u want to talk about neo-nazis in Russia during 2000's ? Because i think it's much more related with the topic.


May try to stop self own for a second please ?
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Apr 2 2023 12:54pm
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Oh but Wagner group has link with Nazis and Far right without involving the prisonner campaign they did in Ukraine.

The Wagner Group is named after the 19th century German composer Richard Wagner, whose music Adolf Hitler adored. The group's leader, Dmitry Utkin, reportedly wears Nazi tattoos, including a swastika, a Nazi eagle and SS lightning bolts. Wagner mercenaries are reported to have left behind neo-Nazi propaganda in the war zones where they've fought, including graffiti with hate symbols

But maybe u want to talk about neo-nazis in Russia during 2000's ? Because i think it's much more related with the topic.


May try to stop self own for a second please ?


I'm not surprised at all because Wagner group = hired mercenaries, all kind of individuals end up there just like the French foreign legion. Do I need to go on?

:P :lol:
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Apr 2 2023 12:57pm
Quote (Djunior @ 2 Apr 2023 20:51)
Ukrainian NATO membership imminent or not has completely nothing to do with the fact that future NATO membership was promised.

And it's not like there were no previous rounds of NATO expansion, in fact there were several.

Do I need to posts that shit again??? Work on your reading comprehension pls because you're embarrassing yourself so badly it's getting painful to watch


i see i have to resort to my limited experience of dealing with special people, trying to get a useful answer out of you. simple question:

do you think russia has the right to invade its neighbour, kill tens of thousands of innocent people, destroy the country, in order to prevent their NATO membership?
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Apr 2 2023 01:02pm
Quote (Djunior @ 2 Apr 2023 20:54)
I'm not surprised at all because Wagner group = hired mercenaries, all kind of individuals end up there just like the French foreign legion. Do I need to go on?

:P :lol:


If you are trying to bitch something like "French Foreign Legion is a nazi like Wagner" you may end up to need a super calculator to modelize how gigantic your self own was...
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