Ah, very normal

I think the recent wave of anti-drag bills are but one such example.

I mean, 99.999% of all humans to ever have lived and the vast majority of those around the world still today consider it a degenerate aberration. Can't even say that about homosexuality or slavery which have more storied histories. We have the hubris to think our contemporary social norms are superior to everyone else, even if those norms aren't even as old as game of thrones on HBO. Heck Obama campaigned as an anti-gay marriage democrat, and Joe Biden opposed integrated bussing.

Hatred is self evident, intolerance shows itself at face value. Same folks who hunt cryptonazis will openly support the azov battalion and cheer videos of drones dropping grenades on russian medics evacuating the wounded. Weird times

The funny thing is that we never had a problem with the Trans community in Asia and South East Asia and left them alone and treat them like normal people, as far as I can remember.

The American Woke culture screwed them up badly worldwide. And there is a huge difference between the Transgenders that we know and understand in our region and the ones in the West ( Mainly USA)

This is a very modern-focused view. Greece and Rome for example didn't have concepts of straight, cis, etc. like we do now. For ancient Greeks it would have been weird if you categorically didn't want to screw other dudes. Knew several guys who went to rural Iraq and Afghanistan after 9/11 who were openly propositioned by men and it wasn't seen as weird or deviant because of some variation of "men are for fun, women are for breeding".

Human sexuality being strictly hetero and not acknowledging that trans people, gay people, bisexual people, etc. are a normal occurance is actually the weird state. Lots of cultures acknowledged trans people, homosexual people, bisexual people, etc but it wasn't acknowledged until recently because the puritan views of the early acheaologists resulted in active suppression of this knowledge.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Mar 27 2023 11:39pm

live and let live. the only people who have a problem are the religious right-wing nutjobs who believe in a fairy tale and hate everyone who doesnt think like they do
modern-day conservatives are exponentially more hateful than anyone in the lgbt community

This level of bullshit is scary.

In what ways will trans people be oppressed by those laws?



Lol I enjoy most of what I see you write in this forum but I never have anything to add because you sum up my thoughts about a lot of subjects better than I can. Agree with all of that, well put.



We talked about this a little bit before, it is definitely odd how differently the issues are approached in Asia vs the West. Whatever the cause of it, I would say that trans people in Asia had a better approach to integrating with society, in the west it seems like they are demanding society integrate with them. I've known a few people who transitioned and was good friends with them before, but they just became so wrapped up in their own identity that they were horrible to be around after being indoctrinated into that ideology.




I have a problem with it and I'm not religious, while you would probably consider me right wing I wouldn't identify as such. I don't find conservatives to be more hateful than trans people, though they are certainly becoming more so, which to me seems like a sign the current approach progressive people are taking towards spreading the new gospel isn't working so well.

I am going to cherry pick a little bit here..

Part of the reason why it is so is because transgender in Asia looks like this and they are not interested in going to schools to teach kids about all those gender study theories etc etc etc
and yes the girl in this picture is a transgender



Now with the US media and how they portray transgenders and all the media stories that was created to spread inclusiveness and them going to school for drag queen or transgender story time.

Those transgender in the states that are being promoted looks like this.



Now if you look at the two pictures above , objectively speaking it is going to create a lot of controversies and ruffle a lot of feathers from both side of the political spectrum.

It is in my honest opinion. If the picture above is being promoted for acceptance and inclusiveness and the political marketing is not being constantly force on to conservatives.
I don't think the problem would have snowballed into what we are experiencing now.

My honest take.

I think I covered it- minus the bit about a centuries-long conspiracy of cis-archeologists- in my line about homosexuality through the ages. The ancients greeks and romans and many other cultures had different or no hangups about where men stuck their dicks. Even transvestitism in some cases. Granted the romans would still be considered raging homophobes by contemporary standards because they clearly cared about getting a dick stuck in you, they sure made the distinction of pitcher and catcher. Look at Cicero finding so many creative ways to accuse Mark Antony of taking it up the ass. But the idea that a man can become a woman? That Joe the fisherman can one day decide to become Jolina the fisherwoman? And everyone in the village would respect their pronoun identification? LOL. The LGB, minus the T, all through history. Yeah I'm sure theres some ancient tibetan fertility ritual about dressing up a prepubescent boy as a girl or the native americans just make complete shit up about 'two spirits' because they have no written history and no clue wtf their ancestors did before whitey started watching (at which point trust me, they didn't have progressive attitudes towards women).

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 28 2023 01:22am