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Mar 16 2023 06:34am
Quote (Meanwhile @ Mar 16 2023 12:16pm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryhSbc_oeCU

The retired general explains it, and it appears very clear for anyone it was all deliberate attack to put it down "without using weapons".

" peaceful jet" :lol:


Do you accept the narrative provided in that video?

WARNING: This is a trick question, noting the narrative provided here is that the US is within its rights to carry out surveillance operations against Russia, to which the logical response is, that therefore Russia is within its right to stop said surveillance, being currently at war in the region.

But Russia is just dumb, no idea why they say such things as we didnt touch this drone, they must know the US has camera's everywhere.

I do see there is a development re: Nord Stream 2. Not sure how much traction thats going to get (not much I would imagine).

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 16 2023 06:41am
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Mar 16 2023 06:46am
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Do you accept the narrative provided in that video?

WARNING: This is a trick question, noting the narrative provided here is that the US is within its rights to carry out surveillance operations against Russia, to which the logical response is, that therefore Russia is within its right to stop said surveillance, being currently at war in the region.

But Russia is just dumb, no idea why they say such things as we didnt touch this drone, they must know the US has camera's everywhere.

I do see there is a development re: Nord Stream 2. Not sure how much traction thats going to get (not much I would imagine).


What i do see is a transitioning into a russian bot :lol:
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Mar 16 2023 06:47am
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What i do see is a transitioning into a russian bot :lol:


is Elon musk also a bot for proposing Ukraine give up some of its land?
are presidents that ask for peace also bots?

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Mar 16 2023 06:54am
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is Elon musk also a bot for proposing Ukraine give up some of its land?
are presidents that ask for peace also bots?


Don't response . :lol:
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Mar 16 2023 06:57am
Quote (ferdia @ Mar 16 2023 01:47pm)
is Elon musk also a bot for proposing Ukraine give up some of its land?
are presidents that ask for peace also bots?


Do you take that guy (Meanwhile) serious? Fair question
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Mar 16 2023 07:00am
not saying it didn't happen but didn't USA also say Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, and Russia destroyed NS, etc?
I'd take anything they say with a grain of salt
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Mar 16 2023 07:03am
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Do you take that guy (Meanwhile) serious? Fair question


Where users will debate in good faith, regardless of their position, I give them the time of day. for users that do not debate in good faith, i dont. meanwhile has repeatedly demonstrated the ability to, at times, debate in good faith.
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Mar 16 2023 07:16am
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Where users will debate in good faith, regardless of their position, I give them the time of day. for users that do not debate in good faith, i dont. meanwhile has repeatedly demonstrated the ability to, at times, debate in good faith.


Users like him (couple others as well) do not debate in good faith and Ukraine/Russia topic is full of proof.

When news or sources are posted that he doesn't like, he will call you Ivan or kremlin bot or he just searches for something random to discredit the source and call you a kremlin bot.

You've experienced that yourself and called him out for discrediting sources (by calling the person in question old), he's pulling similar shit non-stop or just completely ignores what was said and responds with something completely different / out of context.

That is called dishonesty, not debating in good faith. The dude is here for one reason, he hates Russia (China as well) and it shows in almost every post he makes here.

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Mar 16 2023 07:27am
Quote (ferdia @ 16 Mar 2023 13:34)
WARNING: This is a trick question, noting the narrative provided here is that the US is within its rights to carry out surveillance operations against Russia, to which the logical response is, that therefore Russia is within its right to stop said surveillance, being currently at war in the region.


i think when you talk about russia's "right", you mean its "interest". the way you frame it is moscow's position, but it's not international law.

let me try to explain: imagine a bank robbery. it might be in the "interest" of the robbers to kill witnesses, but that doesn't make it their "right". understand the difference?
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Mar 16 2023 07:28am
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 16 2023 01:16pm)
Users like him (couple others as well) do not debate in good fate and Ukraine/Russia topic is full of proof.

When news or sources are posted that he doesn't like, he will call you Ivan or kremlin bot or he just searches for something random to discredit the source and call you a kremlin bot.

You've experienced that yourself and called him out for discrediting sources (by calling the person in question old), he's pulling similar shit non-stop or just completely ignores what was said and responds with something completely different / out of context.

That is called dishonesty, not debating in good faith. The dude is here for one reason, he hates Russia (China as well) and it shows in almost every post he makes here.



the critical word is "almost", not "all" or "virtually". Also he posts some good video's, albeit maybe not intentionally.
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