PSSI was fined $1.5m and they resolved the case fairly quickly not to do so again. Why do you need more laws to solve problems which are not there? IF you can demonstrate to me how it's a widespread issue that has serious negative effects on our society as a whole then we can discuss it in a different tone. But I am not willing to entertain your boogy man. You saying how deregulation is a bad thing is implying that everyone is out to abuse kids like it's 1800's or we live in North Korea. Please also read the fine print as it states things like "with parental consent".

The train fiasco was as far as I recall was not due to Trumps deregulation. The East Palestine wasn't designated as a high hazard and was already equipped with Obama's automatic systems. Even if it was there is no guarantee it would of prevented it because of the over heated bearing. The cost to benefit was done and decisions were made for that time, maybe they can be revised now. But that's another topic for a different thread.

This post was edited by addone on Apr 19 2023 05:51pm

again, you are missing the point. there arent any NEW LAWS being created; existing laws and protections are being gutted. do you see the difference? it is deregulation no matter how you try to spin it. I didnt mention Trump in any of my comments about deregulation because he is irrelevant.
where do you get this notion that more and more laws are being created to solve problems specifically related to child labor?

This post was edited by gnarjay on Apr 19 2023 06:24pm

I worked prior to the age of 18, so I can see definite opportunities in which minors working is not only plausible, but feasible. I think it requires pretty extensive regulation, and should be coupled with social programs that aim to reduce the necessity of poor, migrant families having to have their children work.

I think most reasonable conservatives would say the debate is what is specifically in those regulations, not if they should exist at all

Because I certainly think there should be safeguards in but minors should be allowed to voluntarily work some overtime and also that they shouldn't be doing dangerous work which requires adult certification.

Teach them how to invest and start a business would be far more productive thing to do if you are trying to help the poor. They spend their welfare on alcohol, cigarettes, drugs and other vices and whatever is left towards feeding their kids. I lived on minimum wage with nothing when I first started these people are full of shit. They don't want to do anything with their lives just play video games all day and constantly asking for a handout. Then they go out and Loot stores. The worse part is they teach their kids that this is their life and they cannot aspire because the white man is holding them down..... As you probably guessed I hate free loading bums with million excuses how they are poor.

Anyway I differ from you in that regulation should be at a bare minimum. And once the society reaches certain maturity those regulations should be dropped. For example in 1800's labour laws came into existence because children were literally used as slaves. We don't need those laws any more because those practices are shunned by the vast majority and not ok. You don't need special laws to tell an average person they can't whip their child and work them picking cotton for 60hour work week while feeding them cans of dog food.

Companies like Google for example pay people to take a nap. Not because they are required by some labour law but because it's a proven performance enhancement that well rested employees are more productive. That's a sign of maturity that drives others to implement similar practices.

We don't need more laws to scare us into what we can't do, we need more guidelines and recommendations to tell us how to be more productive in the helful/beneficial way.

This post was edited by addone on Apr 20 2023 12:08am

Teach people without money how to invest money they don't have. That's fucking brilliant.

For the most part, the poor do not waste benefit income on frivolous things like alcohol and cigarettes.

https://blogs.worldbank.org/impactevaluations/do-poor-waste-transfers-booze-and-cigarettes-no