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Nov 19 2024 12:48pm
Quote (WhiteSouned @ 19 Nov 2024 19:47)
It was a paper written by the mayor rather than the police isn’t it ? Or I’m confused ?


It’s chief prosecutor / mayor / chief police. They were presenting jointly on 11th.
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Quote (Malopox @ Nov 19 2024 08:48pm)
It’s chief prosecutor / mayor / chief police. They were presenting jointly on 11th.


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As stated we are preparing an independent investigation..


Is it done yet ? Because this paper sums up what they know but does not include investigation of all those being arrested as I understand.
Forgive me but I didn’t read the whole thing.

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I’m skeptical of people which f**ed up investigating themselves.

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Is it done yet ? Because this paper sums up what they know but does not include investigation of all those being arrested as I understand.
Forgive me but I didn’t read the whole thing.

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I’m skeptical of people which f**ed up investigating themselves.


I read that they detained 62 people, 10 Israelis and 49 of the detained were locals. Some were already released. No names and status of those being released is not public for confidentiality reasons.

This is big news in the Netherlands as ruling party (PVV) is massively anti Islam and pro-Israel.

There will be an independent investigation as well.

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If the government is pro-israel then you cant expect much to change. the narrative has certainly not changed. its a bit like reuters, they can apologise for doing something wrong, but they wont loudly proclaim/broadcast their involvement and no one gets fired, so they will carry on doing it.
more of the same ~ https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/ny-times-killed-investigation-israeli-hooligans-internal-email-reveals

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If the government is pro-israel then you cant expect much to change. the narrative has certainly not changed. its a bit like reuters, they can apologise for doing something wrong, but they wont loudly proclaim/broadcast their involvement and no one gets fired, so they will carry on doing it.
more of the same ~ https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/ny-times-killed-investigation-israeli-hooligans-internal-email-reveals


A website named “Electronic intifada” is a source of info.. wow. You can quote Hamas or Hezbollah officials while at it..
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Quote (WhiteSouned @ Nov 19 2024 12:19pm)
A website named “Electronic intifada” is a source of info.. wow. You can quote Hamas or Hezbollah officials while at it..


as opposed to what, the jerusalem post? give me a break lol
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Quote (WhiteSouned @ Nov 19 2024 08:19pm)
A website named “Electronic intifada” is a source of info.. wow. You can quote Hamas or Hezbollah officials while at it..


i presume any news outlet (middle east eye, palestine chronicle or the one i linked) not israeli will be lambasted by you so here is the times of israel for you. do you want to deflect and say its also not a reputable source or would you consider condemning this racist israeli behavior ? I think I saw someone say that this behavior is not a big deal, and normal for israeli's ?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/video-footage-shows-israeli-soccer-fans-taunting-arabs-in-amsterdam-with-anti-palestinian-chants/

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i presume any news outlet (middle east eye, palestine chronicle or the one i linked) not israeli will be lambasted by you so here is the times of israel for you. do you want to deflect and say its also not a reputable source or would you consider condemning this racist israeli behavior ? I think I saw someone say that this behavior is not a big deal, and normal for israeli's ?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/video-footage-shows-israeli-soccer-fans-taunting-arabs-in-amsterdam-with-anti-palestinian-chants/


Why would you assume all of the above about me ? I’ve already condemned hooliganism and as much as I care all the guilty ones, including Israelis, can be denied access to the European Union for life..
I’ve simply pointed out that a web labeled intifada might not be the greatest source of info.
That being said, soccer fan chants can be brutal, all over the world. While I think it’s terrible, it still does not justify the Israeli hunting games that those immigrants taxi drivers started.
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Quote (WhiteSouned @ 20 Nov 2024 07:09)
Why would you assume all of the above about me ? I’ve already condemned hooliganism and as much as I care all the guilty ones, including Israelis, can be denied access to the European Union for life..
I’ve simply pointed out that a web labeled intifada might not be the greatest source of info.
That being said, soccer fan chants can be brutal, all over the world. While I think it’s terrible, it still does not justify the Israeli hunting games that those immigrants taxi drivers started.


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Want the truth? Actual 🎯?

1. You cant live with islamists
2. It is a moral and security duty to fight islamists
3. This same poison Israel faces today, they supported in Syria. Choosing conflict over settlement for Golan heights which was entirely feasible 90s to early 20s, and taking neutrality in 2012.
4. This same poison Israel faces today, they supported in Iraq
5. Israel openly supported Hamas for many years to divide Palestinians and to weaken Fatah

Wih all that said, nobody in their right mind should support Israel, neither should they support Palestine. The greatest gift to mankind is that this conflict stretches as long as possible. Both sides are inherently against diplomacy and allergic to security architecture that is sustainable. If Israel contained their policy of expansion and security to Palestine, their actions would be palatable, instead they antagonize and take part in every conflict at every opportunity. The sunni-israel peace showed you the path, yet you will continue to fail to see that path for shias, because you are hellbent on being a proxy. Doing the biddings of others, when your interest is the west bank.. Silly.

Before you call me a shia apologist, your fight against shias is highly beneficial for me economically.

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