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Nov 14 2024 11:18pm
Quote (doomchaser @ 15 Nov 2024 07:07)
Israel is the only country officially racist in the United Nations I know of.. points at the July 2018 nation law, which says Jews have a unique right to self-determination in Israel..= exclusive right ..Arabs have no right for self-determination .. Racist as fvck...


You simply don’t understand it, and you automatically accepts Arabs propaganda.
it simply reaffirms Israel’s status as a Jewish state without infringing on the civil rights of minorities. It point out that Israel’s Declaration of Independence and Basic Laws still guarantee equal rights to all citizens. It argue that the Nation-State Law is meant to secure Israel’s identity without necessarily compromising individual rights
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Nov 14 2024 11:41pm
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You simply don’t understand it, and you automatically accepts Arabs propaganda.
it simply reaffirms Israel’s status as a Jewish state without infringing on the civil rights of minorities. It point out that Israel’s Declaration of Independence and Basic Laws still guarantee equal rights to all citizens. It argue that the Nation-State Law is meant to secure Israel’s identity without necessarily compromising individual rights


Zionism as a whole is a racist ideology ..and is largely responsible for the nakbar that unfolded throughout that last century and continues today.. You have a unique perspective because you have been raised to see it as normal..Like so many others even in America.. Most racist never knew any better because they don't even think it wrong.. Just the way they have been raised..
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Nov 14 2024 11:48pm
Quote (doomchaser @ 15 Nov 2024 07:41)
Zionism as a whole is a racist ideology ..and is largely responsible for the nakbar that unfolded throughout that last century and continues today.. You have a unique perspective because you have been raised to see it as normal..Like so many others even in America.. Most racist never knew any better because they don't even think it wrong.. Just the way they have been raised..


Zionism is simply jewish self determination

Nakba not Nakbar started with them invading to Israel from all directions
Funny you 🤦
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Nov 14 2024 11:58pm
Quote (Many_Names @ 14 Nov 2024 19:45)
The plan is to release the hostages and pressure them into accepting defeat. Afterward, the goal is to establish a government backed by a respected, stable country—one less corrupt than Egypt—to guide them toward self-governance eventually.

At present, I don’t see a viable path to a fully independent Palestinian state; perhaps some form of autonomy could be possible, but not full statehood.

In reality, Jordan could be seen as their state, but they want to control everything, which is where the issues arise.


This does sound like a plan.

I hope that Israel - as the richest and most developed country in the region - takes a front seat in leading these people to prosperity. Ultimately I think we need to improve the image of Israel in the eyes of its neighbours to ensure this peace is everlasting. Like you said these people are indoctrinated to hate Israel from young age and this has to change somehow and it’s up to Israel to do it in my opinion. Recent issues with Israeli hooligans abroad do not do any justice to Israel peace efforts. Not an easy task by any means..

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Nov 15 2024 12:01am
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 14 2024 09:48pm)
Zionism is simply jewish self determination

Nakba not Nakbar started with them invading to Israel from all directions
Funny you 🤦


lol yeah I don't know it all and no I was raised a Zionist ... I don't auto accept 1 point of view anymore.. Like you accept what you been told your whole life... I changed myself forgot all i knew and started fresh with a fresh perspective.. No longer just same as i was as a child taught to make me what i am today.. But someone who can change their mind with more wisdom hopefully for the better... Not saying I am always right ..But know better then just accept what I been told to accept out of faith the teachers know better then I, and are always right.. Most the Time we get it wrong .We need admit our mistakes ..Like our most wise people do.
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Nov 15 2024 12:32am
Quote (doomchaser @ 15 Nov 2024 08:01)
lol yeah I don't know it all and no I was raised a Zionist ... I don't auto accept 1 point of view anymore.. Like you accept what you been told your whole life... I changed myself forgot all i knew and started fresh with a fresh perspective.. No longer just same as i was as a child taught to make me what i am today.. But someone who can change their mind with more wisdom hopefully for the better... Not saying I am always right ..But know better then just accept what I been told to accept out of faith the teachers know better then I, and are always right.. Most the Time we get it wrong .We need admit our mistakes ..Like our most wise people do.


I dont need to be told anything, I live in this reality.
And I have 5 dead family members to back it up.
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Nov 15 2024 12:40am
Quote (Malopox @ 15 Nov 2024 07:58)
This does sound like a plan.

I hope that Israel - as the richest and most developed country in the region - takes a front seat in leading these people to prosperity. Ultimately I think we need to improve the image of Israel in the eyes of its neighbours to ensure this peace is everlasting. Like you said these people are indoctrinated to hate Israel from young age and this has to change somehow and it’s up to Israel to do it in my opinion. Recent issues with Israeli hooligans abroad do not do any justice to Israel peace efforts. Not an easy task by any means..



In stable democracies area (where you live), where existential threats are often less immediate, the emphasis tends to be on diplomacy, collaboration, and fostering a global image. Strength is measured by alliances and soft power.

In regions with a constant struggle for survival, like where I live, the mindset has to prioritize immediate security and deterrence. Being perceived as strong is essential, not just for defense but to ensure survival in an environment where weakness invites aggression.

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I dont need to be told anything, I live in this reality.
And I have 5 dead family members to back it up.


Kind of harder not to be racist when a race is at war with another race .because of racism .. the circle of hate you live in.. sorry for your loss ... But that is the reality you made for yourself as do your fellow Zionist that raised you..
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Nov 15 2024 12:48am
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Kind of harder not to be racist when a race is at war with another race .because of racism .. the circle of hate you live in.. sorry for your loss ... But that is the reality you made for yourself as do your fellow Zionist that raised you..


I am not racist one of my best friends is an Israeli Arab from Tayibe (nearest Muslim Arab city to my city) he is also my sparring and gym partner for the past 17 years.
You simply think of this conflict as black and white and it simply not.
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Nov 15 2024 01:14am
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 14 2024 10:48pm)
I am not racist one of my best friends is an Israeli Arab from Tayibe (nearest Muslim Arab city to my city) he is also my sparring and gym partner for the past 17 years.
You simply think of this conflict as black and white and it simply not.


? Part of the Triangle region, right? all those checkpoints and special cards to just go work? How is his family treated different from yours? Place yourself in their shoes ? And see nothing wrong with it? lol we never see our own racism we raised to believe in normal
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