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Quote (stimpy6298 @ Mar 26 2016 07:07pm)
as long as the democrats can keep the black people enslaved with free hand outs and can bring all those illegals in to vote than ya probably ;)



I've been having trouble finding Trump's policies that will make America great again and free the black man from entitlement slavery.

Perhaps as a supporter you can educate me with a comprehensive list?
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Mar 26 2016 09:15pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Mar 26 2016 04:10pm)
It's a bit like calling someone stupid for going all-in with four Ks on the flop, and your opponent has pocket As and grabs two more As on the turn and river. No, that was clearly the correct call at the time, but luck struck. You guys are like the ones who thought the pocket As would win after only seeing the flop.


It would generally be a mistake because you block much of the range your opponent can call with, and because you'd generally want a checking range of hands with showdown value worse than Kx which should also include some stronger hands so that your checking range isn't too weak.
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Mar 26 2016 09:19pm
Quote (Nathan @ Mar 26 2016 11:15pm)
It would generally be a mistake because you block much of the range your opponent can call with, and because you'd generally want a checking range of hands with showdown value worse than Kx which should also include some stronger hands so that your checking range isn't too weak.


I mean calling all-in.
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Mar 26 2016 09:21pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Mar 26 2016 08:19pm)
I mean calling all-in.


But still predictng election results is a problem of acquiring perfect information as opposed to a turn and river which are both unknown and unkowable since they're ideally perfectly random.

Also I know this has nothing to do with anything but it's funny.

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Quote (Beowulf @ Mar 26 2016 10:11pm)
I've been having trouble finding Trump's policies that will make America great again and free the black man from entitlement slavery.

Perhaps as a supporter you can educate me with a comprehensive list?


If you ever watched any of his speeches on the debates you'd know where he stands ill give you some examples

1. BUILD A WALL pretty ez one
2. make better trade deals with china and other countries that are taking advantage of us
3. taking better care of our veterans
4. CREATING JOBS huge one there
5. cutting down on or deficit
6. deporting illegal aliens...it can be done and was done around the early 1900's in a not so coy way because they were taking our jobs
7. making a military bigger and stronger
8. mending ties and with world leaders to make better allies
9. making a flat tax plan which most republicans have been going on about for a while


those are just some of the key things i can think of off the top of my head i know he's talking about eliminating some things educational wise but they all make for some good talking points especially talking about doing away with sanctuary cities. All that stuff i pretty important overall from rebuilding our infrastructure which falls in the jobs creating section to protecting our borders. Very good debatable list that is there so it should be a good one and I'd like to hear Killary lie through some of these things
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Quote (Voyaging @ Mar 26 2016 06:10pm)
Everyone posting this even though this was a year ago and I was right at the time :lol:

If you recall, he has already run for president in the past and failed miserably. Nobody predicted him being a serious contender. If you bet on him to win the Republican primary you would've gotten like 40x your money or something ridiculous. At the time he wasn't a serious contender. Things have changed dramatically, for a number of reasons.

So no, I don't feel stupid, I feel like that I was absolutely correct at the time given the information available and people at the time were exaggerating his position in the race. The people who pretend like I was off-base with that claim are the ones who should feel stupid.

It's a bit like calling someone stupid for going all-in with four Ks on the flop, and your opponent has pocket As and grabs two more As on the turn and river. No, that was clearly the correct call at the time, but luck struck. You guys are like the ones who thought the pocket As would win after only seeing the flop.

http://i.imgur.com/qIrfmSZ.gif


To be honest, though, this isn't poker. There are clear reasons why Donald J Trump has been so successful, it's just that nobody (and I mean literally nobody) recognized it at the time.
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Mar 26 2016 09:25pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Mar 26 2016 11:22pm)
To be honest, though, this isn't poker. There are clear reasons why Donald J Trump has been so successful, it's just that nobody (and I mean literally nobody) recognized it at the time.


In hindsight of course there were, but it's mostly due to things that have transpired since then that weren't predictable at all (Bush completely blowing his strong lead, for example).

I know the analogy isn't perfect, but it makes the point because I'm mainly consulting Vegas odds. If anyone had known Trump was this strong of a candidate, they would've bet a lot of money on him and Vegas would've adjusted their odds.

Quote (Nathan @ Mar 26 2016 11:21pm)
But still predictng election results is a problem of acquiring perfect information as opposed to a turn and river which are both unknown and unkowable since they're ideally perfectly random.

Also I know this has nothing to do with anything but it's funny.


Predicting election results is not a perfect information game.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Mar 26 2016 09:28pm
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Quote (IceMage @ Mar 26 2016 10:34pm)
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/27/us/politics/donald-trump-transcript.html

I only read a few sections, but geez. Maybe Trump can request a Who wants to be a millionaire format for the debates against Hillary... he's gonna need a few lifelines.

Every single one of her lines is scripted. Hes going to disembowel her with impromptu criticism.

Debates wins are rarely about policy, people fall asleep.
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Mar 26 2016 10:19pm
Quote (stimpy6298 @ 27 Mar 2016 03:21)
If you ever watched any of his speeches on the debates you'd know where he stands ill give you some examples

1. BUILD A WALL pretty ez one
- not that easy, but he might find someone from east germany who has experience with it or otherwise can get israelis to consult him
2. make better trade deals with china and other countries that are taking advantage of us
- actually in most trade deals, the usa got the advantage so re-negotiating might be bad for the usa
3. taking better care of our veterans
- laudable initiative if it works out (but has he costed what he is proposing?)
4. CREATING JOBS huge one there
- where? in china? but maybe your point 6 will be a significant growth area
5. cutting down on or deficit
- where are the details? it's always nice to talk about it, but the devil is in the detail
6. deporting illegal aliens...it can be done and was done around the early 1900's in a not so coy way because they were taking our jobs
- most americans wouldn't want to do the jobs illegal aliens do, so good luck living with the consequences
7. making a military bigger and stronger
- will they go into other countries and rob banks to pay for that initiative?
8. mending ties and with world leaders to make better allies
- please check on the international press re his standing outside the republican asylum
9. making a flat tax plan which most republicans have been going on about for a while
- oh yes, not only flat tax but reduced tax - because one can print money


those are just some of the key things i can think of off the top of my head i know he's talking about eliminating some things educational wise but they all make for some good talking points especially talking about doing away with sanctuary cities. All that stuff i pretty important overall from rebuilding our infrastructure which falls in the jobs creating section to protecting our borders. Very good debatable list that is there so it should be a good one and I'd like to hear Killary lie through some of these things


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