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Nov 3 2024 03:36am
Quote (DocPhil @ 3 Nov 2024 17:34)
Your generals and current prime minister are NOT in position to change anything because they have too much blood on their hands. A current Israeli general said that palestinians are animals and your prime minister says gaza is a city of evil.
By killing more women and children israel is creating more enemies not less, and it won't be long before the west starts to turn their back on them because what's happening now is unacceptable on all levels.


Well, will never happen , I can guarantee you.
Unless.........Uncle Sam collapse.
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Nov 3 2024 03:47am
Quote (DocPhil @ 3 Nov 2024 11:34)
Your generals and current prime minister are NOT in position to change anything because they have too much blood on their hands. A current Israeli general said that palestinians are animals and your prime minister says gaza is a city of evil.
By killing more women and children israel is creating more enemies not less, and it won't be long before the west starts to turn their back on them because what's happening now is unacceptable on all levels.

We’re not targeting women and children, and as you might have noticed, civilian casualties havent increased too much since the local population started following the IDF’s guidance. For almost eight months now, the casualty count hasn’t exceeded 44,000 and is currently around 43,000 (according to Hamas)

Throughout history, no leader managing a war has emerged without blood on their hands. Take President Bush, for instance—his actions led to around 1.5 million deaths. In comparison, in the entire 79-year conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, casualties haven’t exceeded 100,000.

No general enters a conflict without attempting to weaken or intimidate their opponents. And, as history shows, no pacifist has ever won a war.

We need to keep fighting until they are forced to accept defeat.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Nov 3 2024 03:47am
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Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 3 2024 11:47am)
We’re not targeting women and children, and as you might have noticed, civilian casualties havent increased too much since the local population started following the IDF’s guidance. For almost eight months now, the casualty count hasn’t exceeded 44,000 and is currently around 43,000 (according to Hamas)

Throughout history, no leader managing a war has emerged without blood on their hands. Take President Bush, for instance—his actions led to around 1.5 million deaths. In comparison, in the entire 79-year conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, casualties haven’t exceeded 100,000.

No general enters a conflict without attempting to weaken or intimidate their opponents. And, as history shows, no pacifist has ever won a war.

We need to keep fighting until they are forced to accept defeat.


Bolded part is extremely important.
Though I’m not sure whether they’ll accept defeat but nevertheless we have to insure our leaders will sign something that’ll put an end to the Palestinian madness.
They will not go back to resettle Tel aviv.
They will not enter Israeli territories.
They will denounce their claim for the right to return and denounce their status as refugees.
They will ensure our lives here in peace.
Give me all the above and create a Palestinian state.

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Quote (WhiteSouned @ 3 Nov 2024 14:37)
Bolded part is extremely important.
Though I’m not sure whether they’ll accept defeat but nevertheless we have to insure our leaders will sign something that’ll put an end to the Palestinian madness.
They will not go back to resettle Tel aviv.
They will not enter Israeli territories.
They will denounce their claim for the right to return and denounce their status as refugees.
They will ensure our lives here in peace.
Give me all the above and create a Palestinian state.


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Quote (Many_Names @ 3 Nov 2024 16:42)
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Quote (WhiteSouned @ 3 Nov 2024 16:37)
Bolded part is extremely important.
Though I’m not sure whether they’ll accept defeat but nevertheless we have to insure our leaders will sign something that’ll put an end to the Palestinian madness.
They will not go back to resettle Tel aviv.
They will not enter Israeli territories.
They will denounce their claim for the right to return and denounce their status as refugees.
They will ensure our lives here in peace.
Give me all the above and create a Palestinian state.


Some would of course call it the Israeli madness but if you see a way forward for a 2 state solution i think that's already moving the needle far in the right direction. The most important thing is to end the senseless violence and establish dialogue so you may exist in peace moving forward.

Thanks to both of you for answering my questions and comments honestly. It's a long conflict and obviously not an easy topic when it's so close to the heart and while we may disagree with eachother at least it's been a civil conversation and exchange of views. I do hope your families are safe and you remain the same.
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Nov 4 2024 06:53am
Quote (DocPhil @ 4 Nov 2024 13:45)
Some would of course call it the Israeli madness but if you see a way forward for a 2 state solution i think that's already moving the needle far in the right direction. The most important thing is to end the senseless violence and establish dialogue so you may exist in peace moving forward.

Thanks to both of you for answering my questions and comments honestly. It's a long conflict and obviously not an easy topic when it's so close to the heart and while we may disagree with eachother at least it's been a civil conversation and exchange of views. I do hope your families are safe and you remain the same.



Following the events of October 7th, Me and many others believe they do not deserve their own state, and it’s important not to give the impression that violence leads to positive outcomes.

The violence will end when they surrender and release the hostages

Besides, they already have a state called Jordan.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Nov 4 2024 06:54am
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Following the events of October 7th, Me and many others believe they do not deserve their own state, and it’s important not to give the impression that violence leads to positive outcomes.

The violence will end when they surrender and release the hostages

Besides, they already have a state called Jordan.


They will not migrate or disappear you know..
as long as they don’t drop their refugee status, than there is nothing to talk about.
I suggest to play chicken with them.. offer them self determination while dropping the claim for “the right to return” and their refugee status. There is nothing a Palestinian likes more than being a refugee. Such a convenient status - you are always the underdog, entitle for the support of the west and most importantly, you always have someone else to blame.
Arafat fold it last time. Abu mazen fold it. They want all or nothing. As long as it’s the claim.. may the next Gaza war begin.
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Quote (WhiteSouned @ 4 Nov 2024 15:09)
They will not migrate or disappear you know..
as long as they don’t drop their refugee status, than there is nothing to talk about.
I suggest to play chicken with them.. offer them self determination while dropping the claim for “the right to return” and their refugee status. There is nothing a Palestinian likes more than being a refugee. Such a convenient status - you are always the underdog, entitle for the support of the west and most importantly, you always have someone else to blame.
Arafat fold it last time. Abu mazen fold it. They want all or nothing. As long as it’s the claim.. may the next Gaza war begin.


I never said they should disappear I simply stated they are not entitled for presents after October 7th.
Hopefully this is the last Gaza war
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Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 4 2024 02:13pm)
I never said they should disappear I simply stated they are not entitled for presents after October 7th.
Hopefully this is the last Gaza war


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