I’m sure that whatever party committing atrocity is making whatever rationalisation necessary in order to be able to look themselves in the mirror. If a countries actions however is committing what can be argued is genocide then it’s time for the public of that country and the rest of the world to speak out against such barbarity so the 30/40’s are not repeated again. Israel is in my opinion turning into the very thing they vowed to protect themselves against.

I would like to point out that Hamas didn’t “turned Gaza” into dictatorship. Hamas is ruling Gaza the same way all Arab regimes rule. It’s not like before Hamas they had a democracy. They kill whoever oppose them in power, maintaining a solid 2% rich , 95% poor and 3% middle class don’t check my numbers, it’s just for the example.. whoever it’s similar all over the Arab world.
That’s the desert culture. That’s how the Arab world lived for thousands of years.

Your opinion is irrelevant you are not the one who lost half of is friends in a party massacre.

We are not turning into anything
Nazi Germany didnt let the Jews go, there wasnt some sort of hostage and massacre the Jews committed
they simply exterminated them for being Jews,
I have nothing against Arabs or Muslims.
they can release the hostages and surrender but they prefer to sacrifice their entire society before they surrender and as much as it is unfortunate for them it is not my problem.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Nov 1 2024 05:16am

Hamas came to power as a result of a democratic election in Gaza. Since then (17 years ago), no more elections took place. Hence, their rule did indeed come with a decline in democracy, even if the previous status quo might not have met the Western standards for a liberal democracy with free and fair elections either.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 1 2024 05:34am

Syria is also a democracy every elections Assad wins with 98% of the votes

Germany just surrendered to the houthis:
On Monday, German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius decided that a German Navy task group (of two ships) returning to Europe from the Indo-Pacific would not run the Houthi missile gauntlet in the southern Red Sea. They will instead go south around the Cape of Good Hope, the southern tip of Africa.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/31/german-navy-warships-avoid-red-sea-houthis-round-cape/

And


The Pentagon says Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin is sending additional bomber aircraft and Navy warships to the Middle East to bolster the U.S. presence in the region. It comes as an aircraft carrier and its warships are preparing to leave. Austin is ordering several B-52 Stratofortress bomber aircraft, a fighter jet squadron, tanker aircraft and Navy destroyers to deploy to the Middle East
https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/pentagon-bolsters-the-us-presence-in-the-middle-east-with-bomber-aircraft-and-warships/article_23f349f3-edf4-5a71-968a-3d06e3cb3c31.html

This is obviously in preparation for irans True Promise 3. The ME is such a shitshow right now.

Please accept my condolences for your loss.
If you know first hand about the pain and devastation pointless violence can create then you should urge your government to stop inflicting the same amount of pain to others.

Yeah you know that sometimes people can’t simply leave you alone so
You gotta use force.
Your approach will push towards a cease fire which after that we’ll have more of the same because they’ll rebuild and they’ll attack again.
No agreement and no external (international) assurances to it will be sufficient as long as the other side is not willing to live alongside the Jewish state.

You do know that the one’s that pushed the elections in Gaza are the Americans ? Condoleezza rice in particular. Israel insisted not to push forward with the elections as long as Hamas participates but eventually gave in to the pressure by the US.
See here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/30/world/middleeast/rice-admits-us-underestimated-hamas-strength.html#

That proves my point.. Hamas are not holding the Palestinians as captives. Our war should be against the palestinian ideology and not only ‘Hamas’ since it clears all the rest from the blame in believing such a destructive ideology.



The entire Palestinian identity is based on Israel. They simply don’t want us here no matter what Israel do or does..



That’s why I believe it’s time for them and the world to change the way they see the conflict. They have to compromise while dropping their absurd claims of resettle Israel just because they think they have the right to return.

Several suspects arrested amid probe of PM’s office over alleged classified intel leak
The leak, he said, posed a risk to “sensitive information and intelligence sources,” and harmed efforts to achieve “the goals of the war in the Gaza Strip.”
According to Channel 12 news, the war aim in question was related to a potential hostage deal, with its report saying that suspects in the case selectively leaked and twisted Hamas documents obtained by the IDF regarding the terror group’s strategy in the hostage talks.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-media-organizations-request-removal-of-gag-order-on-pmo-security-affair/