Are you serious?
Hamas dug tunnels to raid the south of Israel.
Hezbollah’s tunnels are for what? The protection of Lebanon ?
It’s a joke. All those Iran dependent terror organisations planned to destroy Israel together. They are actively saying that for years. What we saw on 7/10 is Hammas executing their plan, without coordination with Iran apparently , hoping the hezballah will join from the north.
Luckily, it didn’t happen.
So now you go and blame Israel for starting wars.. lol. It’s some kind of twisted reality.

Fix your claim Israel didnt start anything

And I do not agree with your analysis,
Israel would simply fight differently without uncle sam and it would be much more painful and fast

This post was edited by Many_Names on Oct 30 2024 07:41am

Im blaming Israel for starting wars that it can't finish. The point I was trying to make is that the only way Israel gets out of this mess (IMO) is for Uncle Sam to become even more involved than it already is. Israel has the right to defend itself, but it's obviously biting off more than it can chew.

Ok fair enough.

Without Uncle Sam? Israel wouldn't be on the map. It'd be a caliphate .

This post was edited by iLoveMyUsername on Oct 30 2024 09:39am

I disagree. The ME is never resolved in just 2-3 weeks. The 'resistance' consistently prides itself on resilience and patience. As for Israel biting off more than it can chew—I don’t believe so. If a nation as resource-rich as Russia can’t sustain itself alone against Ukraine, then naturally, Israel would also need allies to support its efforts. The entire 'if not for Uncle Sam' argument is logically flawed and serves more as demagoguery than as a rational point.

And almost a Trillion $ from all Nato countries combined.

Well, then it would be wise to let us win, for the sake of your own money… or maybe, just maybe, that’s exactly how Uncle Sam wants it.

I dont think so

And what is winning? Israel is illegally settling and expanding in the west bank and now preparing to occupy and settle in gaza and displacing the remaining population. The actions of the israeli gov can be argued to be genocide so if you are going down that path, what's to stop you from doing anything really?

Winning is when the other side surrenders. Usually.
In the short term - Hamas is out, the hostages are back.
In the long run - Palestinians to acknowledge their loss in 1948 and 67 wars , denounce their claim for “the right to return” and specially to kill their destructive ideology for the elimination of Israel.

Rest of what you wrote is all driven from the conflict being too long. You are party speculating as well (resettling Gaza ? Gaza won’t be resettled..)