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Apr 20 2021 10:54am
Quote (thesnipa @ Apr 20 2021 12:52pm)
horse and cow NPK is nearly identical. you'd do far better with Chicken if you're looking to NP fix, or better yet Rabbit. especially in a low soil volume requirement area like a greenhouse. assuming you're using 5 gallon buckets for tomatoes and such. obviously rabbit at scale doesnt work as well.

both rabbits and chickens tho give the tertiary products, pelts and eggs. eggs being far easier to move than pelts. ive raised both for meat, rabbits are easy to clean but pelts are a pain to process. i'd pinch 1-2 off each crop and gave away or tossed the rest.


The slight difference between cow/horse manure is a blessing.

Also you said something i didn't agree on but you're right. Chicken/Sheep are also great manure. To be fair, it all come down to what you grow.

I don't use 5 gal bucket which could work. I use raised bed. 4x4 raised beds and a 4x8 raise bed with a slight elevation incase there run off (Which i don't want) because the soil do all the work (Living soil) with mulch on top.

Out of curiosity, how much you guys sell your manure down there?

edit: these are the raised bed i used. they are real good. I always wanted to learn to craft my own but for the price they cost, not sure it work the hassle even if i love learning new set of skills.
https://www.grassrootsfabricpots.com/raised-beds/

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The slight difference between cow/horse manure is a blessing.

Also you said something i didn't agree on but you're right. Chicken/Sheep are also great manure. To be fair, it all come down to what you grow.

Out of curiosity, how much you guys sell your manure down there?


i live in the Dairy state of Wisconsin. you pay people to take manure, not the other way around.

i dabbled with selling chicken manure in 5 gal buckets at farmers markets, wasnt worth it. i had to break it down over a few months, package, and price in a bucket. no one wanted to pay what it cost me in time so i just use it now.

horse manure has like 100 craigslist ads where u scoop it u own it. cow manure they put in pits and spray on fields, almost no anhydrous sprayed as a result in my area.

what are you growing that a .1 difference in N P and K is a blessing?

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edit: these are the raised bed i used. they are real good. I always wanted to learn to craft my own but for the price they cost, not sure it work the hassle even if i love learning new set of skills.


Look into charles dowding. especially indoors, ditch the raised beds, go no dig. with that heavy of a compost/manure mix id suggest no dig.

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i live in the Dairy state of Wisconsin. you pay people to take manure, not the other way around.

i dabbled with selling chicken manure in 5 gal buckets at farmers markets, wasnt worth it. i had to break it down over a few months, package, and price in a bucket. no one wanted to pay what it cost me in time so i just use it now.

horse manure has like 100 craigslist ads where u scoop it u own it. cow manure they put in pits and spray on fields, almost no anhydrous sprayed as a result in my area.

what are you growing that a .1 difference in N P and K is a blessing?


WTF YOU GUYS PAY TO GET RID OF YOUR MANURE??? I smell a good business opportunity!

I got two strains that always struggled with the SLIGHT difference . (70s Haze and an oldschool Mazar i Shariff(Indica) landrace. Everything else i think i 100% agree with you that the difference wouldn't be noticed.

Everything growing in the raised bed usually adjust itself with the worms doing their work. (That's taking in consideration i didn't abuse on the 4-4-4 and 2-8-4)

Man you'd make a killing with that manure here. People overpay for manure here if you don't know the right guy

edit: ill take a look into Charle Dowding.

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WTF YOU GUYS PAY TO GET RID OF YOUR MANURE??? I smell a good business opportunity!

I got two strains that always struggled with the SLIGHT difference . (70s Haze and an oldschool Mazar i Shariff(Indica) landrace. Everything else i think i 100% agree with you that the difference wouldn't be noticed.

Everything growing in the raised bed usually adjust itself with the worms doing their work. (That's taking in consideration i didn't abuse on the 4-4-4 and 2-8-4)

Man you'd make a killing with that manure here. People overpay for manure here if you don't know the right guy


weed and 4x4 or 4x8 raised beds sounds like an inefficient growing style. what's the root ball on a weed plant? 12-18" radius even fully matured? but requires 2-3 foot spacing or so right?

find a bakery and ask if they'll give u frosting buckets. they're food grade and better thickness than a hardware store 5 gal. that's what i use.

and ya, manure is not a scarce thing here.
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Apr 20 2021 11:14am
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weed and 4x4 or 4x8 raised beds sounds like an inefficient growing style. what's the root ball on a weed plant? 12-18" radius even fully matured? but requires 2-3 foot spacing or so right?

find a bakery and ask if they'll give u frosting buckets. they're food grade and better thickness than a hardware store 5 gal. that's what i use.

and ya, manure is not a scarce thing here.


It's actually very efficient. The end product is solid. When doing living soil (7-15 gal bucket minimum is advised and beds are usually a go-to (Raised and Sip bed) , you usually chop at the stalk and let the roots in there and plant a new plant. You should google bout it. It's a nice way to grow (NOT SAYING ITS THE BEST IN THE WORLD) but it does wonder for lot of people). I tried hydro, soiless, soil and find myself enjoying those beds. Maybe i'll venture in something new in the future as i always love learning and i learn something new daily.
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It's actually very efficient. The end product is solid. When doing living soil (7-15 gal bucket minimum is advised and beds are usually a go-to (Raised and Sip bed) , you usually chop at the stalk and let the roots in there and plant a new plant. You should google bout it. It's a nice way to grow (NOT SAYING ITS THE BEST IN THE WORLD) but it does wonder for lot of people). I tried hydro, soiless, soil and find myself enjoying those beds. Maybe i'll venture in something new in the future as i always love learning and i learn something new daily.


what i know of growing weed i learned from TPB, so i know almost nothing. it may be very effective, tbh i have no clue. just seems hard to get high number of plants to me. but high density doesnt always win out either on all crops.
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Apr 20 2021 11:26am
Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Apr 20 2021 03:39pm)
They are stupid AF. Cow actually help the world more than people know . Their manure is used to enrich soil. Their milk to feed people and same with their meat. We're just living in a world filled with people like the 2-3 dems you guys argue with on a daily aKa people who were raised by google and live on the internet.


its a scam , agenda to remove real meat and bring in fake beat, no thanks, humans are meant to eat animal fats and proteins, i have been eating carnivore for 2 years now, never felt better, they lied to us for decades on purpose




apparently being a beta mail soy latte drinker sucks

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its a scam , agenda to remove real meat and bring in fake beat, no thanks, humans are meant to eat animal fats and proteins, i have been eating carnivore for 2 years now, never felt better, they lied to us for decades on purpose


Sucks for people who will have to live eating that (IF IT REALLY HAPPENS).

I take care of my own livestock+grow my own crops. Always loved being self sufficient. I was born to learn and practice new skills. I'm someone who cba working for someone else and i don't give any power to the paper bills that dictate our life ($). At the end of the day, it's a piece of paper with ink on it. My life worth more. Thats why i helped all my friends to get in Crypto asap to be self sufficient ASAP. It's not a life to wake up 5-6 days a week to work 85% your life only to start living when you far too old with health issues.

Life is now and you should be living now too.

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Apr 20 2021 12:46pm
This is why they do not want you to take the JohnSon and Johnson vaccine, they want you to take the Experimental MRNA Vaccines

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This is why they do not want you to take the JohnSon and Johnson vaccine, they want you to take the Experimental MRNA Vaccines

https://i.gyazo.com/f34dcab987124872c13a9e6ac604c932.png


They all shit. I'll keep eating well, sleeping well and taking care of both my body and my mind. If you knew how good you feel when you don't watch the TV/News and all that other crap. When i go the city, it's crazy how nervous, drained, empty of joy people are. Most of the people gave up and let tyrants do whatever they feel like without resistance. Our ancestors were the last of their breed. They fought till death to give us the best and we gave it all back .
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