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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 23 2024 12:15am)
How much political speech should each person be allowed?


one X post per month ration :lol:
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speech or money?


How about publishing a book or showing a movie?
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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 23 2024 11:22am)
How about publishing a book or showing a movie?


you lost me there
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Quote (gnarjay @ Oct 23 2024 01:45pm)
you lost me there


Thats literally what citizens united was about

Citizens united argued michael moores fahrenheit 911 and its ads were illegal political spending by an outside group. FEC allowed it. So citizens united made their own movie, Celsius 41.1 (the temperature a brain fries) and Hillary: The Movie. The FEC banned them from being shown or advertised, and they challenged it in court

The scotus argument boiled down that the time constraints and money caps were arbitrary and didn't matter to the ability to restrict political speech. The argument the Obama administration made in court is that if a book had a single sentence criticizing a politician, the government would have the power to ban that book

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Arguments before the Supreme Court began on March 24, 2009.[9][18] During the original oral argument, Deputy Solicitor General Malcolm L. Stewart (representing the FEC) argued that under Austin v. Michigan Chamber of Commerce in 1990, the government would have the power to ban books if those books contained even one sentence expressly advocating the election or defeat of a candidate and were published or distributed by a corporation or labor union.[19] Stewart further argued that under Austin the government could ban the digital distribution of political books over the Amazon Kindle or prevent a union from hiring an author to write a political book.[20]


It was a case to test whether the first amendment even exists
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Beirut is on fire tonight.

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Quote (Goomshill @ Oct 23 2024 12:25pm)
Thats literally what citizens united was about

Citizens united argued michael moores fahrenheit 911 and its ads were illegal political spending by an outside group. FEC allowed it. So citizens united made their own movie, Celsius 41.1 (the temperature a brain fries) and Hillary: The Movie. The FEC banned them from being shown or advertised, and they challenged it in court

The scotus argument boiled down that the time constraints and money caps were arbitrary and didn't matter to the ability to restrict political speech. The argument the Obama administration made in court is that if a book had a single sentence criticizing a politician, the government would have the power to ban that book



It was a case to test whether the first amendment even exists


My understanding is that this essentially proves that if you have freedom of speech within a state, where the levers of power are democratically distributed, such state is indistinguishable from an oligarchy (this is distinct from aristocracy), such that democracy is but an illusion

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Quote (Many_Names @ Oct 23 2024 03:57pm)
Beirut is on fire tonight.


AL-MAYADEEN? Meh..

Im still waiting for the eventual retaliatory strike against Iran from you boys. The us leaked that yall gona use golden dawn/rocks albms to hit em but what I want to know is, are yall going to switch it up now that the us fucked you over? Hitting everything Uncle Sam told you not to would be hilarious and actually bring Iran to its knees economically. Shits gona be wild.

Planned airstrikes on Iran will make the world understand Israel’s military might, the Israeli defence minister, Yoav Gallant, has said.
Gallant visited aircrews at Hatzerim airbase on Wednesday and made clear that Israel still intended to strike back. “After we attack in Iran, they will understand in Israel and elsewhere what your preparations have included,” Gallant told the crews in a video distributed by his office.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/23/strike-on-iran-will-make-world-understand-israels-might-says-defence-minister

You got any idea how big this attacks gona be? Cause homeboys hyping it up!
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AL-MAYADEEN? Meh..

Im still waiting for the eventual retaliatory strike against Iran from you boys. The us leaked that yall gona use golden dawn/rocks albms to hit em but what I want to know is, are yall going to switch it up now that the us fucked you over? Hitting everything Uncle Sam told you not to would be hilarious and actually bring Iran to its knees economically. Shits gona be wild.

Planned airstrikes on Iran will make the world understand Israel’s military might, the Israeli defence minister, Yoav Gallant, has said.
Gallant visited aircrews at Hatzerim airbase on Wednesday and made clear that Israel still intended to strike back. “After we attack in Iran, they will understand in Israel and elsewhere what your preparations have included,” Gallant told the crews in a video distributed by his office.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/23/strike-on-iran-will-make-world-understand-israels-might-says-defence-minister

You got any idea how big this attacks gona be? Cause homeboys hyping it up!


it was one of the hardest nights in Beirut, Al-Mayadeen was just the opening, the fire is still burning

We will attack Iran it’s not a question of if it’s question of when.
And we will attack when we want to

This post was edited by Many_Names on Oct 24 2024 12:58am
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I applied for the job but was rejected for saying that my first order of business would be to turn hezbollah into a Christian army and attack the islamic caliphate (france)

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