Fixed.

LOL @ either of them giving a fuck about the Constitution.

They take turns, duh.

This is true in some respects, the party in power always pushes power in the direction they want it. But theres some things they both consistently push on.

Inks been saying this for a while but one party is straight up worse lol.

Agreed.

In terms of corruption and trying to fuck over the public Republicans are worse, hands down. That was more or less my message through the last few years of Obama. Dems arent perfect by any stretch, but its not a contest whos more in touch with reality.

My favorite PARD reoccurring conversation is the "your side lies more" argument where a 12 paragraph long definition of a "lie" is needed to even start substantiating it.

neither party is more truthful, neither cares about you. you're a vote and a tiny fraction of an opportunity for them to get cash payouts from corporate america. that's it, that's all politics is.

want proof? put campaign finance reform on the table and watch 198+ of 200 senators walk away. there isn't a single politician in today's politics who would push for it, because they're all bought pandering liars.

your assumption that your side is looking out for the people is nothing but the end product of your political bias. it's not factually based by anything except a study from a university where your political bias rules. and that goes for both sides.

post me up on /r/elightenedcentrism all you want, but if you vote for a party instead of a person it's because you're a sucker. i take bonus sales off suckers like you 3 times a day.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 6 2019 03:27pm

Russiagate, Lawsuitgate, Ukrainagate... yeah the Dems don't even know how to spell Constitution.

I've never voted for a party instead of a person, I've never considered Democrats to be "my side", and I've been openly critical of Democrats the entire time I've been posting on this forum.

If you think both parties are equal, then you're an idiot. If you think which is better or worse is dependent on what you value, you are correct. If you think based on your values they are roughly equal such that a distinction can't be meaningfully made, then I'm gonna ask you to give your reasons. But saying neither party is more truthful, you're just being lazy and desperately trying to convince yourself that you're enlightened. One party's reasoning and stances conforms with reality significantly more than the others, and that's just obvious if you're willing to take a critical eye.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 6 2019 03:33pm

last time i checked, only one of the parties has congresspeople that are outspoken in favour of campaign finance reform, trying to get corporate money out of politics. restricting it exclusively to the senate definitely skews it in favour of 'bothsideism', but it's still true.

and focusing on pard specifically, many people on 'the left' support exactly those lawmakers that want to do away with corporate control of politics in america, while criticising the democrat establishment for being almost as corrupt as the republicans are in that regard.