No, it's useless talking to you. By all accounts you seem like a pretty smart fellow but you are literally a brick wall when it comes to logic and reason concerning your faith.

You were making points to Duff, not me. I was talking to ofthevoid until you chimed in about how TheSnipa isn't a Christian even though he self-identifies as one.

We get it. You hit the spiritual jackpot. Your Christianity is the right one.

communists have a wide variety of beliefs and they're all communists, you're kind of shooting yourself in the foot with this reasoning. the quoted question is classic tactics where you offer an extreme and facile viewpoint that seems congruent with the other persons argument. if they say no then you can imply their whole argument is incorrect because they disagree with the words you put in their mouth disguised as their own argument.

sure there's standards a person should uphold before they call themselves something, but you're presenting a black and white viewpoint where either your standard is correct or christians can worship satan. there's no consensus on the correct interpretation of biblical doctrine.

...talk about saying something so absurd , so ridiculous , so ludicrous that your credibility will forever be in question...good job .

you should ask for reading comprehension classes at the old folks home

Except there is...the Bible is not written in some cryptic code like manner that someone with little or no knowledge can't understand the messages. Many people really try to enlarge the point you are trying to make to discount solid doctrines that are controversial. If there is no consensus on doctrine A, therefore some behaviors can be acceptable. If there is no consensus on which texts are part of the canon of scriptures then it becomes acceptable for people like Joseph Smith or other heretics to make shit up and say it's from God, completely eroding what Christianity actually is.

edit: It's a pretty effective tool for people who like/want to attack Christianity but you know it, i know it, everyone knows it to be bs.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Aug 16 2015 01:38pm

Feel free to dodge. Either answer my questions or I'll continue to ignore yours.

It's not my Christianity, it's just Christianity.



I'm trying to establish with my fellow atheists that words have meaning. So, where do they themselves draw the line on these meanings. Can a Muslim believe Jesus is the son of God? Can a Christian believe in polytheism?

There actually is a consensus on a lot of Biblical doctrine. Immature atheists can't really understand what the definition of a Christian is because they haven't even bothered to learn the basics of our doctrine.

This post was edited by IceMage on Aug 16 2015 01:42pm

Yawn you guys are boring with this argument.

Maybe you could Google some Hillary Clinton hack pieces and paste them into Jay's thread again?

Possible shall I troll on? Seriously though have faith in christ your one and only savior

I'm confused, is this question aimed at Duff the question I am supposed to answer?

Okay. Obviously faiths and political ideologies have a central dogma, so to speak. I.e. A Christian is loosely someone who believes Jesus Christ is God's son and died for humanity' sins (essentially John 3:16).

But Mormons believe that, too. Why aren't they Christian? Isn't the proof in the Book of Mormon? Or wait, is it the Holy Bible? Both books say they are the right one...how do I know who is lying?