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Mar 23 2017 02:33pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Mar 23 2017 03:31pm)
Let's not speak too soon. We saw what happened with Trump.

It'll probably end up passing rofl.


I'm still going to cheer every time this administration fails.
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Mar 23 2017 02:41pm
Quote (IceMage @ 23 Mar 2017 16:30)
Vote delayed until tomorrow cause they don't have the votes.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7aboVPbZVRA14Zk4/giphy.gif

nice gif of an anti-american scumbag :lol:
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Mar 23 2017 02:44pm
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nice gif of an anti-american scumbag :lol:
http://i.imgur.com/T5IGqMR.jpg


The only reason you(and other Trump cultists) still obsess over Hillary is cause deep down you know she would've been a better leader than Trump.
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Mar 23 2017 02:49pm
Quote (IceMage @ 23 Mar 2017 16:44)
The only reason you(and other Trump cultists) still obsess over Hillary is cause deep down you know she would've been a better leader than Trump.


as usual, you get it all wrong. but keep cheering for the government to fail, you anti-american full-on left-wing loser :lol:
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Mar 23 2017 02:54pm
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as usual, you get it all wrong. but keep cheering for the government to fail, you anti-american full-on left-wing loser :lol:


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Mar 23 2017 02:56pm
Let's just be honest
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Mar 23 2017 02:59pm
Quote (Voyaging @ Mar 23 2017 01:31pm)
Let's not speak too soon. We saw what happened with Trump.

It'll probably end up passing rofl.


The fact that they're struggling to even formally begin this process in the House is truly incredible, it's almost impossible to even put into words what a miserable failure this is in a historical sense. It already is on par with some of the absolute worst openings to any previous administrations in U.S. history.

Getting a bill through the House is by far and away the easy part of this process. So much of their overall strategy relies on the quick passage of that bill and then turning around and ramming it through the Senate in less than a week. They're very upfront about the amount of cognitive dissonance one needs to believe they're on the right track: many of the last-second votes they're adding to their tally are being added under the promise that the bill will necessarily be improved in the Senate, when the party knows full well that their only prayer of passage is to pass it as-is. There's no committee action in the Senate, half of their members haven't even read the bill because they assume it's DOA.
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Mar 23 2017 03:16pm
Quote (Pollster @ 23 Mar 2017 16:59)
The fact that they're struggling to even formally begin this process in the House is truly incredible, it's almost impossible to even put into words what a miserable failure this is in a historical sense. It already is on par with some of the absolute worst openings to any previous administrations in U.S. history.

Getting a bill through the House is by far and away the easy part of this process. So much of their overall strategy relies on the quick passage of that bill and then turning around and ramming it through the Senate in less than a week. They're very upfront about the amount of cognitive dissonance one needs to believe they're on the right track: many of the last-second votes they're adding to their tally are being added under the promise that the bill will necessarily be improved in the Senate, when the party knows full well that their only prayer of passage is to pass it as-is. There's no committee action in the Senate, half of their members haven't even read the bill because they assume it's DOA.


what's more miserable is your failure to accurately predict the democrats and (c)linton's tremendous defeat at the hands of President Trump. don't forgot:
Quote (Pollster @ 18 Jul 2015 12:23)
Clinton would win in an electoral landslide. I know people like to have fun discussing fringe candidates but anyone who would attempt to argue otherwise is clearly clueless regarding national and state politics. Clinton would receive at least 347 EVs, and could theoretically push into the 370s-380s if she was fortunate enough to have 6-8 months of campaigning against Trump as the Republican standard-bearer.


Obligatory: thanks for yet another fucking laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mar 23 2017 04:50pm
Quote (Pollster @ Mar 23 2017 03:59pm)
The fact that they're struggling to even formally begin this process in the House is truly incredible, it's almost impossible to even put into words what a miserable failure this is in a historical sense. It already is on par with some of the absolute worst openings to any previous administrations in U.S. history.

Getting a bill through the House is by far and away the easy part of this process. So much of their overall strategy relies on the quick passage of that bill and then turning around and ramming it through the Senate in less than a week. They're very upfront about the amount of cognitive dissonance one needs to believe they're on the right track: many of the last-second votes they're adding to their tally are being added under the promise that the bill will necessarily be improved in the Senate, when the party knows full well that their only prayer of passage is to pass it as-is. There's no committee action in the Senate, half of their members haven't even read the bill because they assume it's DOA.


I also like the symbolism. They wanted to vote on the 7th anniversary Obamacare was passed, and they end up having to delay it a day because they don't have the votes. This is the greatest reality show in history.
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Mar 23 2017 05:34pm
Quote (Pollster @ 23 Mar 2017 21:59)
The fact that they're struggling to even formally begin this process in the House is truly incredible, it's almost impossible to even put into words what a miserable failure this is in a historical sense. It already is on par with some of the absolute worst openings to any previous administrations in U.S. history.

Getting a bill through the House is by far and away the easy part of this process. So much of their overall strategy relies on the quick passage of that bill and then turning around and ramming it through the Senate in less than a week. They're very upfront about the amount of cognitive dissonance one needs to believe they're on the right track: many of the last-second votes they're adding to their tally are being added under the promise that the bill will necessarily be improved in the Senate, when the party knows full well that their only prayer of passage is to pass it as-is. There's no committee action in the Senate, half of their members haven't even read the bill because they assume it's DOA.


so there is this bill that paul ryan drafted, that is very unpopular. it is handling a subject so difficult that republicans on their own struggle to find a middle ground: it seems almost impossible to draft a health care bill that isnt either too extreme for moderate republicans or too moderate for right-wing freedom caucus representatives.

so... a bill drafted by paul ryan on one of the toughest subjects if failing because house republicans cant get their shit together, and this means trump and his administration are failing? :wallbash:
this isnt failing, this is democracy.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Mar 23 2017 05:35pm
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