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May 17 2017 09:32am
Having a president at war with the establishment, at war with the media and at war with the IC had predictable results. Trump didnt have serious baggage before the campaign, it was manufactured each step of the way. Not even 9/11 fallout was as hysterical as sustained as this circus shitshow, its been a year and its only grown stronger.
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May 17 2017 09:33am
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Things were much different prior to 2016. The trend really started around the GOP primary, and mostly due to Trump and the media reaction to him, and especially the new media of Facebook+Twitter and the spread of fake news and insult-driven political talk has been the driving force behind this new broken US IMO.

yep, no insults at all in prior elections and definitely no bullshit on the facebook from groups like the occupydemocrats until 2016

2012: "lmao mitt russia the biggest threat hahahahhahaha the 1980s and cold war called they want their foreign policy back buddy!!!" - President Obama ///// "LMAO he got him good there TAKE THAT YOU EVIL RICH REICH-WING SOUTHERN WHITE CHRISTIAN REPUBLICAN MALE RMONEY!!" -Democrats/media
2016/2017-??: 'reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee russssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssiaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa' - Democrats/media
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May 17 2017 09:34am
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yep, no insults at all in prior elections and definitely no bullshit on the facebook from groups like the occupydemocrats until 2016


Figured it was a mistake to attempt a serious discussion.

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May 17 2017 09:41am
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yep, no insults at all in prior elections and definitely no bullshit on the facebook from groups like the occupydemocrats until 2016


Nothing against Obama or Mitt in the past 5 years. Back 8 years ago we had a minor bump in loss of civility when McCain went for Sarah Palin and the racist shadow campaign against Obama (and HRC's contribution). And that still wasnt even a 0.2 on the Ebola scale

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May 17 2017 09:46am
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http://i.imgur.com/f3OZF99.png

http://i.imgur.com/NTGJOUP.png

#winning

even if you decide to reject all the evidence that Trump is corrupt and/or incompetent; his presidency has been an absolute disaster for our country's morale and spirit... this is the saddest, most divisive state the American people have been in in a long time


IDK, Bush was pretty disastrous for our country's morale and spirit. That's really when America started to become an international joke.
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May 17 2017 09:52am
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 16 2017 05:49pm)
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"Literally Nixon" rofl


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May 17 2017 09:53am
Quote (Goomshill @ May 17 2017 10:32am)
Having a president at war with the establishment, at war with the media and at war with the IC had predictable results. Trump didnt have serious baggage before the campaign, it was manufactured each step of the way. Not even 9/11 fallout was as hysterical as sustained as this circus shitshow, its been a year and its only grown stronger.


How is he at war with the media though? He is making them millions in ad money and they worked so hard to keep him in the spotlight.

I don't know, seems they've partnered up.

Trump at war? Nah, he would dodge another draft for sure. He is too good to be in the military

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IDK, Bush was pretty disastrous for our country's morale and spirit. That's really when America started to become an international joke.


But we were relatively united as a country domestically. We were the brash morons on the international stage playing world police. Even the antiwar dissenters werent treated anywhere near todays hostility. Now its domestic strife ripping the country apart.
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But we were relatively united as a country domestically. We were the brash morons on the international stage playing world police. Even the antiwar dissenters werent treated anywhere near todays hostility. Now its domestic strife ripping the country apart.


We were post 9/11, but in his later years we got split pretty hard. That's actually where the big schism started. Now, it's without a doubt worse today, but the origins can certainly be traced back to those years.
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May 17 2017 10:22am
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We were post 9/11, but in his later years we got split pretty hard. That's actually where the big schism started. Now, it's without a doubt worse today, but the origins can certainly be traced back to those years.

that also had a lot to do with war fatigue and the market crash/great recession, those tend to make people irritable (rightly so)
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