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Oct 15 2024 12:46pm
Quote (iLoveMyUsername @ Oct 15 2024 11:18am)
Asmongold banned on his 2nd twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/zackrawrr for talking against Palestinians and being pro genocide.

clip of the takes that got him banned: https://twitter.com/i/status/1845889127629176966


Good on him for speaking the truth

People are moving away from woke media enterprises such as Reddit & Twitch - best to give em' the middle finger and use a different platform.
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Quote (Many_Names @ Oct 15 2024 10:51am)
Our country was created after an independence war, no one “gave” us anything


Why haven't you guys arrested António Guterres on suspicion of funding & enabling genocide?

I read that you barred him from visitation... but why? Why not arrest him instead? It seems incredibly weak to treat the head planner & funder of the Oct 7 massacre with kid gloves doesn't it?
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So, I know that we are all earnestly awaiting the eventual Israeli retaliation against Iran, so I did a wee bit of digging into its AA setup.

It seems (source: bro, trust me) that Iran has around 40 S200s and 4 S300 battalions. The s300s are supported by less effective Russian SA-22 and Iranian-made Khordads and Bavar 373 air defence systems. These systems are mostly staged around Tehran and their oil refineries in the south. The only thing that could realistically hurt the Israelis are the new Russian S400s, but we were talking about paper matchups at this point.

These systems are easy to spot and even easier to avoid. The Israeli Air Force *might* get into some trouble if directly attacking near these systems, but it's mostly open season for them. When Iran launched its first big missile way back when, there was a story of a single F35 taking out some AA near an Iranian nuclear power plant, so Israel having free reign over a vast swath of Iran is not out of the question.

Tl;dr: iranian AA can't stop the Israeli air force, and the only reason why Israel is waiting so long to retaliate is because they have to take into consideration the inevitable ballistic-missile response from Iran.

Missles and drones are the biggest deterrents currently in warfare, and Iran bet the house on that fact. The Israeli Air Force is still going to fuck them up though (if they dont cuck out that is).



This post was edited by zorzin on Oct 15 2024 04:45pm
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Quote (gnarjay @ 15 Oct 2024 21:40)
ask chat gpt on this one bud


The creation of Israel was driven largely by the efforts of Zionists—Jews from around the world advocating for a national homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine. Many of these Zionists collaborated with the indigenous Jewish population (Jewish communities that had been living in Palestine for centuries) and used political, diplomatic, and military means to achieve their goal.

Zionism and Global Support

Zionism, initiated in the late 19th century, was a response to growing anti-Semitism in Europe and a desire for Jewish self-determination. Theodor Herzl and other Zionist leaders mobilized Jewish communities worldwide to promote immigration to Palestine and secure international backing for the establishment of a Jewish state.

British Role and Support

The British played a crucial role in the process, particularly through the Balfour Declaration of 1917, which expressed support for the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine. However, British support was not entirely altruistic. As you correctly mentioned, during World War I, Jewish leaders, including Chaim Weizmann, contributed to British war efforts (notably through his work in chemistry), and Zionists lobbied for British support in return.

The British mandate over Palestine (1920-1948) was also marked by political tension. While Britain initially supported Jewish immigration, it later restricted it due to pressure from the Arab population, especially during the 1930s and 1940s. Despite these restrictions, Zionists continued to pursue their goals through diplomacy and, at times, resistance to British rule (e.g., by Jewish paramilitary groups like the Haganah and Irgun).

Tactics Used by Zionists

Zionist efforts included:

• Political Lobbying: Zionist leaders used diplomatic channels and sought the backing of global powers like Britain and later the U.S.
• International Platforms: They worked through international institutions and gained support from influential figures and nations sympathetic to the Jewish plight, particularly after the Holocaust.
• Armed Struggle: Jewish military groups also played a role in securing territory, especially during the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. However, not all tactics used by these groups were without controversy, with debates over the ethical dimensions of actions like forced expulsions.

Ethical Boundaries

While rape and torture were not official or widespread tactics used by Zionist forces, some isolated incidents and massacres (e.g., Deir Yassin) have been widely debated. Most mainstream Zionist groups condemned such actions. The broader goal was to secure a Jewish state through political means, immigration, and military defense.

Conclusion

In summary, the creation of Israel was the result of a multi-faceted Zionist effort, including global mobilization, cooperation with local Jews, and leveraging international support. The British played a key role, though not without expectations of reciprocity, particularly for Jewish contributions to the war effort.

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The US has written to Israel, giving it 30 days to boost humanitarian aid access in Gaza or risk having some US military assistance cut off.
It says the US has deep concerns about the deteriorating humanitarian situation, adding that Israel denied or impeded nearly 90% of humanitarian movements between the north and south last month.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wk0e8zey2o

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Quote (zorzin @ 16 Oct 2024 13:06)
The US has written to Israel, giving it 30 days to boost humanitarian aid access in Gaza or risk having some US military assistance cut off.
It says the US has deep concerns about the deteriorating humanitarian situation, adding that Israel denied or impeded nearly 90% of humanitarian movements between the north and south last month.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wk0e8zey2o

Cracks in the foundation


Well it deteriorates because Hamas steals all the aid 🤦
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Quote (zorzin @ Oct 16 2024 11:06am)
The US has written to Israel, giving it 30 days to boost humanitarian aid access in Gaza or risk having some US military assistance cut off.
It says the US has deep concerns about the deteriorating humanitarian situation, adding that Israel denied or impeded nearly 90% of humanitarian movements between the north and south last month.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9wk0e8zey2o

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Cracks in the foundation, lmao

You wish. This is lip service, nothing more. The US are literally stationing their own troops inside Israel.
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Quote (Many_Names @ Oct 15 2024 12:51pm)
Our country was created after an independence war, no one “gave” us anything


Since October 7th, net aid to Israel accounts for more than $2000/Israeli -citizen. Are you saying Israel takes this from US and we do not give it?

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Since October 7th, net aid to Israel accounts for more than $2000/Israeli -citizen. Are you saying Israel takes this from US and we do not give it?


Did the US gave us anything on 1948?
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Quote (Many_Names @ 17 Oct 2024 01:05)
Did the US gave us anything on 1948?


Technically they did, they recognized the state of Israel on the same day that Ben Gurion proclaim the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948.
There were only 22 countries that did that in 1948.

Followed up by 33 Countries in 1949.

The rest started to slowly follow after.

They were the first country that recognized the State of Israel, as one of the main, most important and most powerful allied member after WW2, their military , economical and political clout is influential to the state and the creation of the state of Israel.

In 1946 Truman recommend to admit displaced Jews into Palestine and in that same year publicly declare the support for the creation of the Jewish state.

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