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into the annals of 'aged like milk'
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2012-2016:

GOP blackballs any attempt for Obama to pass through stimulus to strengthen the economy because of the deficit, the debt, and fear of inflation, and the Fed raises interest rates slowly. The U.S. Government lowers deficits to half-a-trillion.

2016-2020:

Trump is elected, GOP spends like drunken sailors and passes an irresponsible tax cut when the economy is already doing well, and then he badgers the Fed into lowering and keeping rates low. Companies use the money to initiate stock buybacks, and to take out more debt. The U.S. Government surges deficits to over one trillion.

2020-2024 Prediction:

The U.S. Government spends like a drunken sailor to help get out of the coronavirus recession. Tax revenues plummet, and the deficit tops several trillion. Biden beats Trump.

The GOP blackballs any attempt for Biden to pass through stimulus to strengthen the economy because of the deficit, the debt, and fear of inflation, and the Fed raises interest rates slowly. The U.S. Government lowers deficits to likely a trillion as I doubt we’ll ever be back below that now.



I’m glad we really have the GOP to help balance everything out. Our country’s debt is going to skyrocket like a mother over the next couple years, and Biden is going to be plagued by the deficit hawks. Just like old times! Thanks Obama (read: Bush and the congressional GOP, Trump and the congressional GOP).

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2012-2016:

GOP blackballs any attempt for Obama to pass through stimulus to strengthen the economy because of the deficit, the debt, and fear of inflation, and the Fed raises interest rates slowly. The U.S. Government lowers deficits to half-a-trillion.

2016-2020:

Trump is elected, GOP spends like drunken sailors and passes an irresponsible tax cut when the economy is already doing well, and then he badgers the Fed into lowering and keeping rates low. Companies use the money to initiate stock buybacks, and to take out more debt. The U.S. Government surges deficits to over one trillion.

2020-2024 Prediction:

The U.S. Government spends like a drunken sailor to help get out of the coronavirus recession. Tax revenues plummet, and the deficit tops several trillion. Biden beats Trump.

The GOP blackballs any attempt for Biden to pass through stimulus to strengthen the economy because of the deficit, the debt, and fear of inflation, and the Fed raises interest rates slowly. The U.S. Government lowers deficits to half-a-trillion.



I’m glad we really have the GOP to help balance everything out. Our country’s debt is going to skyrocket like a mother over the next couple years, and Biden is going to be plagued by the deficit hawks. Just like old times! Thanks Obama (read: Bush and the congressional GOP, Trump and the congressional GOP).


Bill Clinton with a Republican senate was very successful. I think Biden would be far more successful than Obama working with a GOP congress. Obama wasn't moderate enough.
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Bill Clinton with a Republican senate was very successful. I think Biden would be far more successful than Obama working with a GOP congress. Obama wasn't moderate enough.


Is that code for white enough? Obama wasn’t white enough? Cause that’s the only way I can see how the GOP can play victim of the thief on one hand and responsible accountant on the other hand, and pretend to be reasonable and conservative while at the same time blowing shit up like this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/opinion/05brooks.html

Or running trillion dollar deficits in a booming economy, and still get votes.
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uh oh

edit: the bracket should say "The green shows the risk for significant community spread in 5-11°C range over land"



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Quote (Interesting @ Mar 18 2020 03:44pm)
Is that code for white enough? Obama wasn’t white enough? Cause that’s the only way I can see how the GOP can play victim of the thief on one hand and responsible accountant on the other hand, and pretend to be reasonable and conservative while at the same time blowing shit up like this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/opinion/05brooks.html

Or running trillion dollar deficits in a booming economy, and still get votes.


:wacko:

I don't know why the GOP worked with Bill better. A significant portion was probably because Obama attacked their way of life, gaslighting and accusing them of being racist, misogynist, backward, and conspiratorial. Just like you right now.

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Quote (thesnipa @ 18 Mar 2020 19:27)
False binary. we dont need to entirely shut down society until a workable vaccine or cure is found. we need to take preventative measures, shut down nonvital industries, practice social distancing, eat less food prepared by others, wash hands more. slow down the spread to help the healthcare system work at a reasonable pace while biding time. by shutting down what we can we limit scarcity.

or we can just callously decide we need to not do this and see deaths as unimportant as car deaths, which again, we do a lot to prevent.

it comes down to prevent-ability, what we can do, and seeing time as the 4th dimension. and in any case, i think people should drive less and at far lower speeds than they do.


The bolded is the key part. We can NOT shut down all nonvital industries for months and months on end. The crumbling club, tourism and entertainment industries alone would create millions of unemployed, of declining demand and consumption, of loan defaults. This would lead to further job loss in the construction, event and media industries, to job loss in breweries, clothing, retail, and so on. All the economic downturn and credits which suddenly turn foul would put the banks under a ton of stress, and so on and on.

Certain industries not being vital in the sense of "necessary for immediate survival" does not rule out the possibility that they are nonetheless dominos whose fall could trigger a chain reaction taking down the entire economy, and social order. These industries might not be vital in the strict meaning of the word, yet still system-relevant.

It is feasible, and the right call, to shut them down right now, for a couple of weeks. But keeping them shut down until a cure is found, which might well take until the summer of 2021, is not feasible.

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The bolded is the key part. We can NOT shut down all nonvital industries for months and months on end. The crumbling club, tourism and entertainment industries alone would create millions of unemployed, of declining demand and consumption, of loan defaults. This would lead to further job loss in the construction, event and media industries, to job loss in breweries, clothing, retail, and so on. All the economic downturn and credits which suddenly turn foul would put the banks under a ton of stress, and so on and on.

Certain industries not being vital in the sense of "necessary for immediate survival" does not rule out the possibility that they are nonetheless dominos whose fall could trigger a chain reaction taking down the entire economy, and social order. These industries might not be vital in the strict meaning of the word, yet still system-relevant.

It is feasible, and the right call, to shut them down right now, for a couple of weeks. But keeping them shut down until a cure is found, which might well take until the summer of 2021, is not feasible.


oh darn. we're going to force the corporations to figure out how to keep consumers and remain alive ahead of their automation schedule. i for one am really upset. /s

if there's one good thing about corona, its that people are getting a sneak peak into the unemployed sit at home reality that 50 years from now will be the norm.
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Quote (Interesting @ 18 Mar 2020 15:44)
Is that code for white enough? Obama wasn’t white enough? Cause that’s the only way I can see how the GOP can play victim of the thief on one hand and responsible accountant on the other hand, and pretend to be reasonable and conservative while at the same time blowing shit up like this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/opinion/05brooks.html

Or running trillion dollar deficits in a booming economy, and still get votes.

no that’s what you’re saying. fuck outta here with that disgusting bigotry you racist anti-American scumstain

reported, btw

Quote (thesnipa @ 18 Mar 2020 16:15)
oh darn. we're going to force the corporations to figure out how to keep consumers and remain alive ahead of their automation schedule. i for one am really upset. /s

if there's one good thing about corona, its that people are getting a sneak peak into the unemployed sit at home reality that 50 years from now will be the norm.


its not so bad so far (working remotely though). get all my work done before my 2nd cup of coffee and field calls/emails as needed rest of the day from the couch. use luncheon hour to workout and play a game of fifa

no work would just mean more working out and fifa lololol

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