& here I thought the days of explaining to liberals that the popular vote doesn't elect the POTUS were over.

You should move to a democracy. America isn't a democracy, its a constitutional presidential democratic republic, as the founding fathers very wisely avoided the trappings of the tyranny of the majority that comes with democracy.

& Here I thought the post where I said "I'm aware of how it works" was sufficient to prevent anybody from making an irrelevant post like this.



Nah I'll stay here and encourage fixing our broken political system ty for the suggestion though I'll keep it in mind.

This post was edited by Voyaging on May 8 2017 09:32am

wow it's almost like he completely knows that and is suggesting a flaw in the system.

The very foundation of america is the rejection of tyranny for a balanced political system of compromise, one that sought not just to eliminate a king as tyrant but to avoid the traps of all the known political systems.
Why do you hate america?

& yet you continue to cry about how clinton was the real winner, when in fact she wasn't.

We both know if trump had won the popular vote, yet lost electorally, you certainly wouldn't be in here whining about how Trump was the true winner but got screwed. The left would condescendingly shoot that notion down over & over again.

However you gals lost, so you'll continue to churn out excuse after excuse

thats total bullshit. the race was not about the popular vote, therefore the campaigns didnt try to maximize the popular vote. thus, we have no idea who would have won a race in which both sides had campaigned for the popular vote. it's not too far fetched to assume that trump could have, for example, increased his margin in texas by 500k-1m if he had held more rallies there. or that he could have reduced clintons winning margin in california by putting in more effort there.

we dont know how a race about the popular vote would have ended, and we cant deduce it from the popular vote result of a race that didnt aim at the popular vote. therefore, it is simply wrong to conclude "trump isnt who the voters wanted because he lost the popular vote".

Nah, a popular vote race favors democrats by a mile. Republicans haven't expanded their national vote for almost twenty years.

I agree that clinton would have had an above 50% winning chance in a race for the popular vote. probably 60%+. but we dont know for sure, and we cant deduct that trump would certainly have lost a race for the popular vote from the results of a race in which the popular vote was an afterthought.

And who would win in the race between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton when campaigning for General Secretary of the Communist Party of China?
They ran for the executive leader of a constitutional presidential democratic republic, and ran for a presidency bound by the constitution, elected by democratic representatives of the states.
If we want to obsess over how they might have fared in a purely democratic system, why not over by a crony republic or a kritarchy or just run for dictator?

Madison said it right, the more people there are, the weaker a democracy gets and the stronger a republic gets. "Democracy" shouldn't be applied to any decision making beyond ~20 people in a room