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Mar 18 2020 12:12pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 18 2020 01:02pm)
We make efforts to stem deaths from cars, we don't stop driving or shut down the economy and stay in our houses even though driving or being around cars is deadly.

My logic is simple, if we aren't shutting down the economy over that which i think we can agree is way more impactful on the aggregate then how does it make sense to do so over something that is 1/10 as damaging in net results?

Having a healthcare system that can service tens of millions more than expected capacity in times of peace is nonsensical and highly wasteful. 20-50 million people a year are injured from car accidents, tens of millions are injured as part of their jobs or whatever, many of them require going to the hospital, yet i'v never heard we need to increase our hospitals capacity because those numbers are staggering.

What exactly you think is the solution? Build tons of hospitals and have 2x healthcare workers but only have half of them working in non stress times?


You can waste money by employing too many people during peace, or by reducing the number of injuries during war. The first is wasteful all the time, the second is wasteful only during outbreaks. Both require sacrifice, but you have to choose one.
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Mar 18 2020 12:19pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 18 2020 02:04pm)
cars last forever. even if we locked ourselves inside they'd still be there. cars dont have a possible vaccine for the death they cause coming. etc.

i agree, your logic is simple.


You're right the other plan makes much more sense, see you in 18 months. Hopefully the gov't gives us enough freebies to prevent rioting and anarchy.
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Mar 18 2020 12:20pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 18 2020 07:02pm)
We make efforts to stem deaths from cars, we don't stop driving or shut down the economy and stay in our houses even though driving or being around cars is deadly.

My logic is simple, if we aren't shutting down the economy over that which i think we can agree is way more impactful on the aggregate then how does it make sense to do so over something that is 1/10 as damaging in net results?


Imagine those injuries and deaths are not evenly distributed throughout the year but suddenly grow exponentially, causing the healthcare system to collapse.

Your logic doesn't make sense, traffic accident related injuries are something entirely different than this virus.
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Mar 18 2020 12:27pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 18 2020 01:19pm)
You're right the other plan makes much more sense, see you in 18 months. Hopefully the gov't gives us enough freebies to prevent rioting and anarchy.


False binary. we dont need to entirely shut down society until a workable vaccine or cure is found. we need to take preventative measures, shut down nonvital industries, practice social distancing, eat less food prepared by others, wash hands more. slow down the spread to help the healthcare system work at a reasonable pace while biding time. by shutting down what we can we limit scarcity.

or we can just callously decide we need to not do this and see deaths as unimportant as car deaths, which again, we do a lot to prevent.

it comes down to prevent-ability, what we can do, and seeing time as the 4th dimension. and in any case, i think people should drive less and at far lower speeds than they do.
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Quote (Skinned @ 18 Mar 2020 18:15)
We have 18 ICU beds in the county I practice in.


US has 34.7 critical care beds per 100k

and you are telling me you have 18 ?

Btw 18 means "dick" in korean e-slang.


/e; 1/ are you sure 2/which state please ?

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Mar 18 2020 12:31pm
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 18 2020 02:20pm)
Imagine those injuries and deaths are not evenly distributed throughout the year but suddenly grow exponentially, causing the healthcare system to collapse.

Your logic doesn't make sense, traffic accident related injuries are something entirely different than this virus.


Being overwhelmed for a weeks as we get herd immunity very rapidly to me is less dangerous than the vast majority of businesses being shut down and having 50% of the population that lived paycheck to paycheck be expected to survive until we get a vaccine for god knows how long.

Time will tell, really wish at least one country took the get it over as soon as possible approach. Maybe India or Africa will considering their population is relatively young.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ 18 Mar 2020 19:31)
Being overwhelmed for a weeks as we get herd immunity very rapidly to me is less dangerous than the vast majority of businesses being shut down and having 50% of the population that lived paycheck to paycheck be expected to survive until we get a vaccine for god knows how long.

Time will tell, really wish at least one country took the get it over as soon as possible approach. Maybe India or Africa will considering their population is relatively young.


You are completely delirious, maybe it's the first symptoms for you, time to go to see a doc.
I hope it's not contagious
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Mar 18 2020 12:46pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 18 2020 11:31am)
Being overwhelmed for a weeks as we get herd immunity very rapidly to me is less dangerous than the vast majority of businesses being shut down and having 50% of the population that lived paycheck to paycheck be expected to survive until we get a vaccine for god knows how long.

Time will tell, really wish at least one country took the get it over as soon as possible approach. Maybe India or Africa will considering their population is relatively young.


It baffles me that this is your position given what we're seeing in Italy. The economy will survive by buying interest free loans. I think if the virus didn't have a 2-14 day incubation period, you'd have a stronger position, but the fact that you can spread this unknowingly is very dangerous. Keep in mind that if you get sick, you can't work anyway...
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Mar 18 2020 12:54pm


can we keep the Irish sober for another week? let’s hope so
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Mar 18 2020 01:01pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 18 2020 01:31pm)
Being overwhelmed for a weeks as we get herd immunity very rapidly to me is less dangerous than the vast majority of businesses being shut down and having 50% of the population that lived paycheck to paycheck be expected to survive until we get a vaccine for god knows how long.

Time will tell, really wish at least one country took the get it over as soon as possible approach. Maybe India or Africa will considering their population is relatively young.


the Mengele level experiment you're looking for is called Miami Florida. should work out great.
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