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May 6 2017 08:51am
Quote (Goomshill @ May 6 2017 09:39am)
And do high level government meetings involve coloring books or barbie doll playhouse sessions, or what else did you have in mind for a 7 year old girl to contribute to a meeting with Xi Jinping?



Who are 'my' politicians? I've been a registered democrat longer than you
I'll agree, the vast majority of democrats are fucking morons.


Have you? I mean I voted for Nader because I didn't like Al Gore's
Personality.

And I'm talking about your current party. I don't hold evolving views against people....people should change.
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May 6 2017 08:56am
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If you knew the first thing about politics and weren't blinded by your own hysterical babbling as the party implodes, you'd have noticed that the GOP's base of support right now is not only exceptionally diverse but also fractious, encompassing neocons, gun nuts, evangelicals, libertarian paulites, warhawks, bernouts, pedes, tea partiers, rednecks and establishment moderates. They couldn't agree on the toppings for an extra large pizza let alone social or fiscal policy. Half want to dismantle the government and shrink the debt, the other half want to to spend and blow shit up.
In a reality in which the DNC was actually competent, the obvious divisions within the GOP ranks present opportunity to divide and conquer both in elections and to score policy victories, like compromising with Trump to get universal healthcare when these half hearted house bills flop. But instead we're in the world in which the DNC is scared of its own rebellious base who drink the koolaid and aggressively attempt to ostracize anyone who doesn't, publicly attempting purity tests and eating their own and having a real tea party-esque meltdown without any of the temporary gains.


We will be in charge again soon. Rednecks, tea partiers, gun nuts are all About the same thing. You basically said "white identity politics" people. Its a shrinking demographic in the end of we are being pragmatists.

And I work for these people. I know their struggles, now better than most people here because I'm finding them rehabs, housing, prescribers, vocational training, etc. They're fucked in some cases. But I don't think they should vote for the party that fought rural electrification. Or the one that is fighting to reduce their health care and wages. That's really the bottom line.
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May 6 2017 08:58am
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We will be in charge again soon. Rednecks, tea partiers, gun nuts are all About the same thing. You basically said "white identity politics" people. Its a shrinking demographic in the end of we are being pragmatists.

And I work for these people. I know their struggles, now better than most people here because I'm finding them rehabs, housing, prescribers, vocational training, etc. They're fucked in some cases. But I don't think they should vote for the party that fought rural electrification. Or the one that is fighting to reduce their health care and wages. That's really the bottom line.


using the same argument, you could question why blacks vote for the party that supported slavery and the jim crow laws.
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May 6 2017 08:58am
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using the same argument, you could question why blacks vote for the party that supported slavery and the jim crow laws.


Google: Southern Strategy
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So similar

skinned: "YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE"
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May 6 2017 09:15am
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Who are 'my' politicians?

I've been a registered democrat longer than you


American politicians.

Of course you have. I'm fucking British. I don't think I'm even allowed to be a registered Democrat as I can't vote in your elections.
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using the same argument, you could question why blacks vote for the party that supported slavery and the jim crow laws.


Except that's not the same argument, not even close. You people that continuously bring that up always ignore the one key fact. The parties change ideologies, so that isn't an "AHA GOTCHA"
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May 6 2017 11:29am
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We will be in charge again soon. Rednecks, tea partiers, gun nuts are all About the same thing. You basically said "white identity politics" people. Its a shrinking demographic in the end of we are being pragmatists.

And I work for these people. I know their struggles, now better than most people here because I'm finding them rehabs, housing, prescribers, vocational training, etc. They're fucked in some cases. But I don't think they should vote for the party that fought rural electrification. Or the one that is fighting to reduce their health care and wages. That's really the bottom line.


'those people' hold wildly disparate views. Many of them are blacks, gays, latinos, etc, but their identity is irrelevant, what matters is their viewpoint: The rightwing right now is not just ideologically diverse, but so much so that its collapsing at the fracture points.
The left wing is not ideologically diverse. Ten minutes on /r/politics would prove that to anyone. Besides the outright purity tests being bounced around on issues like abortion, the extreme hostility to any dissent on issues like immigration and islam is apparent at a glance.

Rednecks, tea partiers, gun nuts, neocons, libertarians, anti-establishment bernouts aren't the same people. Bernie can walk into a room of rural working class republicans in the south and have them all agree with him on universal healthcare, but the tea partiers campaigned on shrinking government, while many of the militiamen want to overthrow it. Where is this type of fractious diversity on the left? You have the average people who didn't like Hillary but voted for her anyway and preferred Sanders. Then you have the pro-establishment democrats. Who don't actually exist. They're just paid astroturfers or actual politicians because I've never met anyone who was a resolute true believer in the DNC.
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May 6 2017 11:34am
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'those people' hold wildly disparate views. Many of them are blacks, gays, latinos, etc, but their identity is irrelevant, what matters is their viewpoint: The rightwing right now is not just ideologically diverse, but so much so that its collapsing at the fracture points.
The left wing is not ideologically diverse. Ten minutes on /r/politics would prove that to anyone. Besides the outright purity tests being bounced around on issues like abortion, the extreme hostility to any dissent on issues like immigration and islam is apparent at a glance.

Rednecks, tea partiers, gun nuts, neocons, libertarians, anti-establishment bernouts aren't the same people. Bernie can walk into a room of rural working class republicans in the south and have them all agree with him on universal healthcare, but the tea partiers campaigned on shrinking government, while many of the militiamen want to overthrow it. Where is this type of fractious diversity on the left? You have the average people who didn't like Hillary but voted for her anyway and preferred Sanders. Then you have the pro-establishment democrats. Who don't actually exist. They're just paid astroturfers or actual politicians because I've never met anyone who was a resolute true believer in the DNC.


You are mistaking diversity for unwillingness to compromise. The reason the Republican party is collapsing is because the hard-liners are unwilling to conceded anything. The right currently occupies a very small area in the political spectrum, but are unwilling to cooperate with anything outside of their own small subsection of that spectrum.
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