Impossible, everyone started out at the wrong foot, the Brits did a really bad job.

the Palestinians have been getting a raw deal for nearly a hundred years

I some what agree with what El1te said:
Even though his view may raise complex questions about defining universal moral standards and the legitimacy of imposing them on others I believe in more balanced way.
There are things we can simply agree that are pure evil

the Taliban, while banning bacha bazi, severely restrict women’s rights, treat them like property, suppress free speech, target and kill ethnic and religious minorities, use violence and intimidation to maintain control, oppress education, and are deeply corrupt.

I'd say that Israel vs. their neighbours is a wholly irreconcilable problem for the reasons that you stated. Israel has of course committed heaps of violence upon the Palestinians/other residents, and I agree that proportionally Israel has done more violence to them than they have done to Israel, which is largely a result of the balance of power being completely asymmetrical, with Israel being leaps and bounds ahead of their opponents assisted by the world's biggest superpower.

Because the problem is wholly irreconcilable, this means that the only solution is violence. This is just nature at this point, 1 side getting the other side to submit to their rule through violence is the only outcome

Well, fundamentalist Muslims. Wahhabism. Guess where are these ideology coming out from and their roots?

No idea, I know that historical context I dont know the roots.

come on you are in the Mid East.

Wahhabism[a] (Arabic: ٱلْوَهَّابِيَّة, romanized: al-Wahhābiyya) is a reformist religious movement within Sunni Islam, based on the teachings of 18th-century Hanbali cleric Muhammad ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab (c. 1703–1792).[4] The movement was initially established in the central Arabian region of Najd and later spread to other parts of the Arabian Peninsula,[c] and is today followed primarily in Saudi Arabia and Qatar.

This example is a very strong argument for my view of just Imperialism

All of the bad stuff that has befallen them is a direct result of the fall & breakup of the Ottoman Empire. They lived for a long long time in relative peace under Ottoman Imperial rule.

I am an Israeli descended from families who lived here during the Ottoman and British Mandate periods. Unlike many others, my family is entirely indigenous, and we’ve passed down stories of horrific violence committed against us. This makes it clear to me that Jews were being massacred long before the establishment of the State of Israel or even the rise of Zionism. The notion of peaceful coexistence between Jews and Arabs in earlier times is a complete fabrication. Arabs sought to kill Jews before Zionism and the foundation of Israel—so what was it that bothered them back then?

to add: you might say that the Arab Revolt against the Ottomans in 1916 was the worst self goal in the history of self goals. Suckers played themselves.. and got betrayed by the British.

This post was edited by El1te on Oct 10 2024 12:51pm